Prophecies about marriage

I find prophecy particularly interesting because it confirms the Word of God. Paul writes nearly 2 milleniums ago:

1 Timothy 4:1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will [a]fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, 3 men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with gratitude; 5 for it is sanctified by means of the word of God and prayer.

It’s funny seeing just how bad that men think marriage from a secular stand point:

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/37jlu4/marriage_is_nothing_but_a_failsafe_for_a_woman/

It’s very easy to get carried away into marriage bashing as a Christian particularly in this culture; however, it is important to apply this in context. Marriage is only a “bad deal” if you marry a woman who says they’re a Christian but doesn’t act like a Christian. Christian women who obey God don’t go off intentionally sinning and divorcing no matter how unhappy they are.

This is why it is important to vet both attitude and deeds as they both in conjunction tend to reveal the state of the heart. If you can find a woman with a heart that desires after God and is constantly growing in Him with good fruit in her life then it is a waste of time worrying about a divorce that will never happen.

Speaking of the latter half of verse 3: vegetarians, vegans, and all other manner of “diets” that purport to be healthier than alternatives is also amusing to say the least.

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19 Responses to Prophecies about marriage

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  2. Regular Guy says:

    As a 40 year old man this past March, I have learned more from the manosphere about relations between Men and Women than the previous 39 years of my life. At first I was fascinated, then I fell into despair and then I became angry and I’m now in the acceptance phase. Part of the despair and anger I believe I was experiencing was brought on by the lies I was consuming from the secular manosphere.

    I have sense cut out my consumption of their vain bile and I am more at peace and at the end of a spiritual drought. I now seek counsel and wisdom from only those who I know fear the Lord. I am genuinely looking forward to renewing my relationship with The Lord my God, becoming salt and light to a fallen world and being a loving brother to my Church in the dark times ahead.

    Prov 64:2 (KJV) “Hide me from the secret counsel of the wicked; from the insurrection of the workers of iniquity”

  3. Marriage is dumb. Let’s all be honest. The corporations want marriage because in their ideal family unit, a spend crazy woman spends everything her male slave wants.

    Organized religion is dying and I dance on it’s grave. It is ultimately a fascist construct.

  4. Looking Glass says:

    Fascism was/is its own religion. Which is one of those things that most don’t want to accept.

  5. Regular Guy says:

    @ populistlibertine

    Fools have been declaring the “Death of God” for centuries. They are all dead now, but Christ continues to live in the hearts of the faithful.

    Corporations DO NOT want marriage because makes for a more financially and emotionally stable citizenry, less prone to the pull of consumerism and more likely to pool resources for the benefit of the family.

    Corporations and Cultural Marxists LOVE the new child-support model of the family. Cultural Marxists get to break up the concentration of wealth in the middle class and redistribute it to the “oppressed” (women). Corporate fascists benefit from higher consumer spending to support to 2 households and less savings which translates to fewer potential small businesses being capitalized, thus less competition.

  6. gunner451 says:

    I agree with what you have stated, the real problem is in finding a woman like that, as Solomon said:

    Ecclesiastes 7:28 which my soul still seeketh, but I have not found: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found.

    The problem is that women today are raised to be feminists AND THEN Christians and have the expectation that they are going to go to college, get a career AND THEN find a husband. How many of them are pure by that time? When I was still dating (25 year ago) it was bad, there was one woman that was a virgin (at 32!) and boy was she messed up although I will say that she did get married and stayed married but every time I saw her she was putting out this vib like she was looking for some side action. Other than that it was a room full of loose women looking to hop off the carousel with some beta provider. A lot of the men there were still virgins but would guess that for most of them it was not a choice but an imposed condition (although there were a few that chose that path).

    Today I think it’s even worse as they are also loaded up with student loan debt and other debt, plus have even more of a sexual history than what I saw 25 years ago. It can still be done and you can still find that ruby but most will have to settle for something considerably less than that if they want to follow God’s way and because of that will have to accept the severe risks that go along with the damaged goods you find in modern Churches today.

  7. @ gunner451

    Yep, I think men should focus on finding a church that preaches Scriptural sex values.

    I suppose the common way to identify this is to listen to their fathers and mothers day sermons. That is where you will see their stance on the roles and responsibilities they believe in. I’ve noped out of a church or two because of things similar to this.

    Unfortunately, many do not believe in the roles and responsibilities of the Bible.

  8. Regular Guy says:

    @ DS

    OT if I may:

    Advocates of female pastors say 1 Cor 11:5 gives women the authority to Pastor. “5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven”

    Sounds like a stretch to me. Know anyone or a reference that has tackled this topic with sound theology?

  9. Coastal says:

    @DS

    On the latter part of your post pertaining to diets, how does that reconcile with abstaining from certain foods for the sake of health? As someone who’s been eating Paleo-ish and has seen various personal improvements, is verse 3 advocating against cutting out entire food groups (I.e. bread/grains)? Or is the focus moreso on forbidding others from eating certain things?

  10. @ Regular Guy

    Advocates of female pastors say 1 Cor 11:5 gives women the authority to Pastor. “5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven”
    Sounds like a stretch to me. Know anyone or a reference that has tackled this topic with sound theology?

    Women engaged in prayer and prophecy in the OT as well. I don’t really see how that applies to being a pastor.

    In general, “modernism” and “feminism” has conflated roles and responsibilities with worth. This means that positions of *authority* or *headship* such as being a pastor are worth more than being a member of the body with different functions: hands, feet, nose, and eyes. Essentially, like a nagging wife, it’s a power grab.

    It’s not about being permissible but power. Is getting women into STEM or into Fortune 500 CEOs about good performance? No, it’s just because they think there’s an “inequality.” They need more women in these *high status* and *power/authority* positions.

    Should a husband take on the roles and responsibilities of a wife? Surely not. He was not created for that purpose. Should a wife take on the roles and responsibilities of the husband? Surely not. She was not created for that purpose. A bowl of pride covered in a topping of envy.

    Read the rest of 1 Cor 11 too. 1 Timothy 2 and 3 are about roles and responsibilities in the Church.

    In general, women are restricted in the Church from teaching and authority positions over men. This makes sense because women cannot teach or disciple men how to be men. Single motherhood has proved this beyond a doubt.

    The counterpoint to this is that although it is better for women to disciple women (Titus 2), men still exert a positive effect on women under their authority if used in a godly manner.

  11. @ Coastal

    On the latter part of your post pertaining to diets, how does that reconcile with abstaining from certain foods for the sake of health? As someone who’s been eating Paleo-ish and has seen various personal improvements, is verse 3 advocating against cutting out entire food groups (I.e. bread/grains)? Or is the focus moreso on forbidding others from eating certain things?

    Forbidding others.

    Note that the genetically engineered wheat/grain strains are nothing like the wheat that existed in Biblical times. Modern wheat strains were was developed in the 1960s if I remember correctly. The grow faster and are more resistant to insects because of various changes, but those changes have also made them more aggravating to human consumption.

    The analogy that is best used is for strains that are developed to be “insect averse” is that the averse parts act along the lines of pesticides. Pesticides are bad for insects, and they can poison humans too.

  12. ChildofRa says:

    Why is a women considered damaged goods if she has a sexual history? Should i consider my future husband damaged goods when I am a virgin and he is not?

  13. @ ChildofRa

    http://socialpathology.blogspot.com/2010/09/sexual-partner-divorce-risk.html

    That said a woman could have turned away from her past, repented, and become a new creation in Christ.

    If she had a lower partner count I may consider that. If she had a high partner count I probably would not. I think the risk and dealing with past history is too much.

    Whether you consider a non-virgin man damaged goods is up to you I suppose. But the statistics do not bear out the same with men as they do with women.

  14. donalgraeme says:

    @ ChildofRa

    For the sake of argument I’m going to treat your questions as serious.

    Sexual history affects many things, including our ability to bond to a future spouse. This is the case for both men and women, however it is much more prominent in woman. One man can “ruin” a woman, whereas it is very unlikely a single woman can “ruin” a man.

    You should consider any man’s sexual history when thinking of marrying him. “He that is chaste before marriage, much more will he be chaste after it.”

  15. Looking Glass says:

    Botany’s effects on wheat breeding start actually in the 1880s, I believe. They’ve been breeding more gluten into the wheat, as it makes better bread, for a long time. But a lot of the food issues that Paul is dealing with is sacrificed to Idols or the classic Kosher Laws. Paul isn’t saying “you may be allergic to peas, but you have to eat them!”. But people always get self-centered and want to force others to reject the things they do. (I eat a fairly specific diet because of my own needs, but that doesn’t make doughnuts less awesome.)

    Oh, and few like to point out that vegetarian/vegan eating will kill a significant portion of the human population. A good chunk of people can’t process enough protein out of the grain, plus other issues.

  16. Don Quixote says:

    ChildofRa says:

    May 29, 2015 at 1:03 pm
    Why is a women considered damaged goods if she has a sexual history?

    Because a virgin is more likely to bond with her husband than a girl who has already given herself to a man.
    Please consider that a girl’s virginity was considered vital for marriage in biblical times. There are numerous examples of this in the Bible.
    [WARNING CONTROVERSIAL VIEWS AHEAD] Perhaps my favourite is found in Matt. 5:32
    But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife except for the loss of her virginity causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery.
    Don’s paraphrased version.

    Should i consider my future husband damaged goods when I am a virgin and he is not?

    I doubt it.
    But it could depend on the individual, and the type of ‘damage’ done to him…

  17. Forbidding meat and marriage. Paul was calling out one prominent denomination in general, and I think we know which one. I believe that the current, or a future, Pope will be the False Prophet.

  18. jack says:

    If I were to marry, I would not involve the state. Marriage as defined by the state is in opposition to marriage as defined by the Bible. I cannot serve conflicting masters.

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