The Patriarchy

Solomon posted in Dalrock’s thread on not listening:

Dalrock, you said “This is the very definition of complementarianism.”

I think maybe you meant this is the definition of today’s upside-down, backwards, unholy complementarianism currently touted.

Normal complementarianism is God’s actual order. Man is authoity, woman complements/helps

Whether Dalrock intended it or not I think he used the right wording.

From the research I was doing a while ago, I remember the word “Complementarism” was only created in the 1960s if I remember correctly (surprise surprise) during the arrival of second wave feminism. If someone can confirm this I would be grateful. Note that even if it isn’t, it is definitely a more recent term that originated in the 1900s which if it was earlier in the 1910-1920 range then that is the other general starting point of first wave feminism.

edit: Dalrock has the actual source which was from CBMW in 1991 which is even worse because they are trying to marry supposedly ‘good’ parts of feminism with Christianity.

Namely, “complementarism” tries to describe the family roles and responsibilities in a more “friendly” and “politically correct” way than the classical term “patriarchy” — husband led families. However, we know that “patriarchy” has such a negative social stigma to it that naturally Churches and Christians would want to avoid it due to persecution and negative comments.

Obviously, this has backfired because when you give an inch a mile is taken. Instead of standing up to the persecution that may have arisen, they gave in and used a watered down term. It’s little wonder that the meaning of such a word that was already a concession has been twisted and warped to complementarians only giving lip service to husband led families.

The natural order created by God and affirmed in the Scriptures in families is the Patriarchy. Get comfortable with it and be ready to be persecuted for it.

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17 Responses to The Patriarchy

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  2. donalgraeme says:

    One thing I like about my parish is that many of the men have no problem mentioning the word Patriarchy, or defending it. Seems to me that the word would serve as a good litmus test for orthodoxy.

  3. donalgraeme says:

    Looks like you and Dalrock are on the same page here.

  4. Complementarianism is when a wife smashes the wedding china, because her husband didn’t submit to her wishes and then the husband tells her what an amazing blessing she is.

  5. Yep, it appears that way. I’m going to edit that into the OP.

  6. Novaseeker says:

    The natural order created by God and affirmed in the Scriptures in families is the Patriarchy. Get comfortable with it and be ready to be persecuted for it.

    Yes, but the latter is the key. Not only do they wish to avoid persecution (even if they would deny that as a motive), but they worry that this will negatively impact their “relevance” and therefore would become an “obstacle for evangelism” (because more people would think they are kooks). They want to stay within a kind of cultural “Overton Window”, as I recently commented over at Dalrock’s, because they fear that if they do not, bad things will ensue — in part, at least, I also think, in part, their own personal views lie within the Overton Window as well, so it’s a combination of a bit of fear and a bit of personal post-modernism on marriage, dressed in Biblical garb (of course).

  7. @ Novaseeker

    Yes.

    2 Timothy 3:12 Indeed, all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.

    I’m not sure if you’re familiar with a lot of Protestant Churches, but a lot of them now embrace the specific branding of being “culturally relevant.”

    In reality, we recognize this as compromise and/or lukewarmness which dilutes the Gospel. Look no further than the messages of grace without the presentation of repentance and obedience.

  8. Novaseeker says:

    DS —

    I am familiar with the idea of being “culturally relevant”. I suppose it’s an issue of priorities — is the priority mass evangelization, even with a watered down Gospel, or is the priority preaching the Gospel, and accept those who come in response. It seems like priorities can be different in different churches (even within Protestantism, or within Catholicism or what have you). I so think that the Christians who hold to the actual Gospel teachings are going to be increasingly persecuted and marginalized, but I also think that one of the main sources of this will be other Christians, ironically.

  9. donalgraeme says:

    Novaseeker-

    I so think that the Christians who hold to the actual Gospel teachings are going to be increasingly persecuted and marginalized, but I also think that one of the main sources of this will be other Christians, ironically.

    I agree. Other Christians will be the first to line up to persecute because they will want to distinguish themselves from those people. They will take any step they can be not be “lumped together” with orthodox Christians, in order that they might remain “cool.” Because, let’s face it, when they talk about cultural relevance, they mean “cool.”

  10. Looking Glass says:

    @Novaseeker:

    There are two fascinating points about the Overton Window that a Christian should always keep in mind:

    1) Deft understanding of the Window allows one to shift it within your environment by picking specific battles that are easily won and can be built upon. (It’s a similar tactic that’s used to “Converge” an organization, but the result should be towards godliness rather than evil.)

    2) In the depth of the Christian Walk, a Christian should be able to move & interact within multiple cultures. You should be free from cultural Overton Windows, but able to understand their existence and use them to the Lord’s Glory.

    This entire topic actually comes back to a rejection of the Spirit of the Lord and the Wisdom that comes with it. Because the greatest problem facing the Western Church is that all of them are run by blind fools. “Of the light” they rarely are.

  11. Bee says:

    Yes.

    The Bible speaks positively about Patriarchy in both the Old and New Testaments.

    Biblical basis for Patriarchy:

    http://letthemmarry.org/articles/general-biblical-issues/the-authority-of-the-father/what-is-patriarchy-i-defining-our-term?rq=patriarchy

    Family Authority equal to Church Authority:

    http://letthemmarry.org/articles/2015/12/23/family-first

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