No offense

Building off of Scott’s post on Canonical Form.

Essentially, if you are a Christian then you know that things that go against God’s law actually do not exist. Truth and the existence of Truth are firmly rooted in the metaphysical existence of God and all that He has created. Thus, anything that does not agree with the “Truth” is a “Lie.” This is why Satan is described by Jesus in the Scriptures as a murderer and the father of lies.

John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks [n]a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of [o]lies. 45 But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me.

We know from the Scriptures that marriage is between a man and a woman (among other details mentioned in Scott’s post). Hence, the creation and/or existence of the concept such as ‘gay marriage’ does not actually exist in reference to the Truth. This line of thought should color aspects of our lives which I described in my post over there:

“There is a reason why I’m not offended by such things like ‘gay marriage’ and the reason for that is because gay marriage does not exist.

If many Christians were able to see that then they would actually be able to minister to those in those situations with God’s love rather than condemning them. Much like is in 1 Cor 5 that everyone has been talking about recently.

1 Corinthians 5:9 I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But [f]actually, I wrote to you not to associate [g]with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God [h]judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.

It’s those who the Church who call themselves Christian that advocate homosexuality that should be “condemned” and removed [from the Church] (also see: Matthew 18).”

This does not just apply to gay marriage or homosexuality. Overall, Christians should be concerned with policing the members of the Church instead of those those in the world.

However, as I have mentioned before the vast majority of Christians are deceived. Often Christians are concerned with policing non-believers and not holding other Christians morally accountable for their actions. This leads to mass hypocrisy where Christians preach one thing to unbelievers while, at the same time, the unbelievers can see that other Christians are not living out what they preach.

Most other “hotbed” topics are like this. For example, take abortion.

There is beauty and fulfillment in having children and having a large family. Why do the Church and families insist on delaying marriage for convenience, careerism, perfect, money, or other things? Isn’t that what the world does?

The Church shows the world that it advocates against abortion, but by its own actions it doesn’t value family and children.

What if non-Christians could see the testimony of a well-run family with happy children? What if they could experience the joy and fulfillment that a large family has in its family gatherings? Perhaps that would change their perspective on the value of human life, children and family and turn them against abortion.

Almost half of marriages experience divorce, and many of the marriages that stay together are unhappy. It turns off many of the children growing up from marriage not to mention the incentives of men to avoid marriage because of the draconian laws against husbands. What if others could see and experience the joy of a fruitful and godly marriage? Isn’t that a testimony in itself?

In general, the Church has fallen to the deception of focusing on the wrong things. The Church needs to stop ‘taking offense’ and trying to police the world. Police your own, and focus on cultivating the beauty of your own testimony as shown through the light of your life. If we are indeed changed and transformed into Christ’s image then we should not only act like it but also value and prize it.

Note: haven’t been posting much because of RL work! Hopefully will be posting more in the near future.

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10 Responses to No offense

  1. Pingback: No offense – Manosphere.com

  2. Marie says:

    what are your thoughts on adoption

  3. @ Marie

    Fully support it.

    However, it needs to be something that God wants for you. Those who consider it should definitely pray, fast, and get wise counsel.

    Good intentions do not always end up good.

  4. donalgraeme says:

    Great post DS. I have more to say later when I get a chance, but wanted to mention that first.

  5. A Visitor says:

    “However, as I have mentioned before the vast majority of Christians are deceived. Often Christians are concerned with policing non-believers and not holding other Christians morally accountable for their actions. This leads to mass hypocrisy where Christians preach one thing to unbelievers while, at the same time, the unbelievers can see that other Christians are not living out what they preach.”

    This goes back to, in part, people taking not judging out of context. There is a difference between subjective and objective judgment. Subjective, someone is going to Heaven or Hell, is not for us to make. Objective judgment, condemning someone for committing a sin (be it venial or mortal), is for us to make and is a A DUTY too to boot.

    “The Church shows the world that it advocates against abortion, but by its own actions it doesn’t value family and children.”

    This reminds me of an ex of mine. This was years ago, back in college. She said she didn’t go to church because people go to church and then do bad things (her words, not mine) after going. We need to work on our actions, day in and day out. It starts with us.

  6. Looking Glass says:

    @A Visitor & DS:

    A longer study on Judgement: “What it Does & Does Not Mean” would be very profitable. I haven’t run across any easy resources on the topic, but it’s worth a dive. (Though I lack the energy right now.) I imagine there is a lot more writing on the topic than I’ve seen over the years, but even the RCC & Orthodox sources are going to end up really light on actual implementation. But a study on it is probably worth the time for a lot of us.

    At least for a really quick reference link in the future.

  7. Coastal says:

    @Looking Glass

    But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler– not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? But those who are outside, God judges. REMOVE THE WICKED MAN FROM AMONG YOURSELVES. (1 Corinthians 5:11-13)

    Of course, the churchian crowd tends to ignore this passage in favor of quoting Jesus’ “don’t judge” out of context. Come to think of it, I rarely every see church discipline executed at all.

  8. Looking Glass says:

    @Coastal:

    Most people bail from a Church before you could even carry it out. It also tends to be kept pretty quiet.

  9. Looking Glass says:

    @Coastal:

    And while I get the basics/advanced, I’d be curious about a longer overview, as it really covers both Old & New Testament and a lot of interactions with what the words in Hebrew & Greek mean compared to what we use the words to mean. It’s got the “pride” problem: one definition is a Sin, the other is regard for actual accomplishment.

  10. OKRickety says:

    Coastal said on February 17, 2016 at 12:54 pm
    Come to think of it, I rarely every see church discipline executed at all.

    Looking Glass said on February 17, 2016 at 2:18 pm
    Most people bail from a Church before you could even carry it out. It also tends to be kept pretty quiet.

    In my experience, church discipline is never executed, and only rarely taught. As to quiet, the first 2 steps should be quiet unless you are personally involved in them, although I’m sure word would get around sometimes. I do think the final step of bringing it to the church should happen on some occasions, but I have never experienced it, nor known anyone personally who has. I think it should happen but almost never does, perhaps for fear of litigation, but I think primarily due to the likelihood of fallout within the church that the leaders are unwilling to face.

    With the number of divorces in Christian marriages (in the Protestant churches), I think this would lead to many instances of church discipline as most would involve sin by one party, and, often, both parties. True, most people do bail before this would happen, which, on the face of it, would accomplish the purpose, but, in practice, they often move to another church who accept the sinner, usually without question.

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