Is BPD just women with too much freedom revisited

Back in 2013, when SSM’s site was going strong, Cail Corishev came up with (?) a theory that women with BPD was either strongly correlated and/or caused by too much freedom. I found this quite interesting and commented over there, and I was recently reminded of this post which is why I’m bringing it back up.

BPD is borderline personality disorder, although now classified by ICD-10 as emotionally unstable personality disorder.

Borderline personality disorder (BPD) is a pattern of abnormal behavior characterized by extreme fear of abandonment; unstable relationships with other people, sense of self, or emotions; feelings of emptiness; frequent dangerous behavior; and self-harm.[3]

Borderline personality disorder may be characterized by the following signs and symptoms:

~ Markedly disturbed sense of identity
~ Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment
~ Splitting (“black-and-white” thinking)
~ Severe impulsivity
~ Intense or uncontrollable emotional outbursts that often seem disproportionate to the event or situation
~ Unstable and chaotic interpersonal relationships
~ Self-damaging behavior
~ Distorted self-image[3]
~ Dissociation
~ Frequently accompanied by depression, anxiety, anger, substance abuse, or rage

Genetics seems to play a moderate role much like homosexuality, although I would be interested to see if there are epigenetic effects like obesity. For example, the heritability of schizophrenia is high. That means if your parents had it, then there’s a high chance you will get it as well due to genetic influences. However, for low and moderate heritable traits, there is some influence of genetics on development of the trait, but it’s hard to suss them out even from twin studies because of shared environment and potential epigenetic effects.

What epigenetic effects are is the passing on of conditions without encoding genetics for the condition. The rise of obesity is, in part, due to epigenetic effects. If your grandparents and parents are obese there’s a much higher likelihood of the children developing obesity because the patterns of methylation on DNA can be passed on to offspring even though they may not have genes for obesity.

Indeed, childhood [sexual] trauma shows a strong correlation with BPD, and it may play the strongest role. It’s interesting when you combine this with fatherlessness. One of the stats from the CDC shows that “85% of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average.”

Going back to Cail Corishev’s theory, what I suspect is that it’s not so much that BPD are women with too much freedom. Instead,

BPD are women without strong and moral authority figures, typically fathers, in their lives. Additionally, when they were young they were not morally grounded or taught responsibility for actions and consequences.

Women who have strong father figures know they are loved and have a strong sense of their own identity. It is generally the fathers who play the strong role in teaching their children morality in regard to right and wrong and that there are consequences for actions. Mothers tend to shy away from such discipline if there is a strong husband and father for their children.

Indeed, if you look at the list of potential symptoms, a strong loving father would help prevent all of those, if not completely. Strong sense of identity, no feelings of abandonment, less or eliminated black and white thinking, less impulsivity, less emotional outbursts, most stable interpersonal relationships, good self image, no dissociation, not as prone to depression, anxiety, rage, substance abuse, and the like.

To tie this back to the Scriptures, the increasing prevalence of personality and behavioral disorders — not just BPD — are big reasons for strong, loving authority figures. All children are not meant to grow up without fathers, and women are not meant to ‘go it alone’ in the world. Feminists like perpetuating the myth of the independent woman, but we all know that it is not true.

Hence, the strong effect of fathers in raising stable and mature daughters is why daughters are under the authority of their fathers until they get married, after which they are under the authority of their husbands. The fathers and husbands represent a protective covering over them and a stable, grounding influence in their lives.

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7 Responses to Is BPD just women with too much freedom revisited

  1. Pingback: Is BPD just women with too much freedom revisited – Manosphere.org

  2. donalgraeme says:

    Yup, pretty much. As I’ve argued before, a lot of the so-called “oppression” of women in Scripture is actually meant to help women. Unfortunately, we have forgotten or lost so much we cannot see that now, at least, not unless we interact in such rarified circles such as this.

  3. Looking Glass says:

    Internal Tethering. That part of the personality that goes “that’s a stupid idea”. It prevents the Cycle Down effect you see when a group of people get emotional about a shared subject.

    Women don’t have nor seem to be able to choose such a Tether. A Man won’t make 18 without one (as you’ll get yourself killed doing something stupid). This is one of the reasons Women consume so much media and are attracted to Men in the way they are. They lack the firm foundation that Men are granted (Genesis 3 curse, maybe?), so they need structure around them.

    This is also part of the push for later marriage by the older Women. Instinctively, they know that a young Woman that gets married will toss pretty much everything she was before and will now be “Wife”. (At least for a time.) You see this in the “Goals & Dreams” stuff. Very, very few Women actually have any Goals & Dreams. But they’ve been given a script by their Family & Society and so they’ll follow that.

    As to BPD, Cail is in the right ballpark, as are you. At our base, humans desire Order above all other things. It’s merely whose Order that we take. When Order is removed, all sorts of very nasty things start to happen with the Mind & Body. How it comes out, however, is normally decided by the combination of the physical, social and emotional surroundings. (ADHD in boys is normally the same issue.)

    “Freedom with Wisdom is the Tyranny of Ignorance”. I think I put it that way? Tyranny is never good for the soul.

  4. Kitchen Nightmares shows the usual results of a “Strong Independent Woman”. When everything is going well they become normal women again, but at first, when everything is going wrong, they are demented:





    It’s not that the men in this show are much better, but the way the men and the women deal with stress and failure is markedly different, and being a shrieking, mood-swinging, domineering harpy seems to be the way the women are coping.

  5. Looking Glass says:

    This has to be a programmed bot.

  6. Thanks for the link and the insights. In the three years since I wrote that, it doesn’t seem like my thinking has changed much, but here’s how I explain it now: When a girl is not under the proper authority of a man — usually her father or husband — her sanity begins eroding away. The stress of being without male guidance starts chipping away at it. Chip, chip, chip. Now, some girls have a lot more sanity to spare than others, and they lose it at different rates. So you won’t necessarily notice a major change right away, or even for years. But the clock is ticking, and if she endures that stress for a decade or more, she’s unlikely to remain in good mental health.

    As for BPD, I’m less sure than I used to be that BPD is a specific disorder, so maybe they were right to redefine it. Perhaps BPD, NPD, and the others in that family are just different flavors of the same crazy. Maybe it just manifests differently based on underlying personality type, or by environment. Maybe if you combine years without a male authority with childhood sexual abuse, you get BPD-type symptoms; and if you combine it with some other kind of abuse or neglect, you get a different flavor.

    I don’t know enough to sort out those details. But my basic theory, that lack of male authority steadily drives females batty — and that this damage is not very reversible, so a woman who has endured years of it will have a very difficult time submitting to a man again, even if she honestly wants to — has only been confirmed by three more years of observations.

  7. @ Cail

    That’s a good explanation.

    Perhaps BPD, NPD, and the others in that family are just different flavors of the same crazy.

    That’s what I believe.

    Basically, when you get ‘injured’ in a sport what usually goes is a weak link. It could be a sprained ankle. It could be a pulled muscle. It could be a broken bone.

    Women manifest the same type of ‘stress’ which erodes sanity in different ways. BPD, NPD, and the like are just different ways the brain breaks.

    But my basic theory, that lack of male authority steadily drives females batty — and that this damage is not very reversible, so a woman who has endured years of it will have a very difficult time submitting to a man again, even if she honestly wants to — has only been confirmed by three more years of observations.

    Spot on. Generally, ways of acting become habits over long periods of time. It’s something that you have to focus to relearn much like taking the red pill. You still find bits and pieces of blue pill that you never thought were there at random times.

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