If you’re spiritually immature, you should expect your wife won’t submit

Snapper has an interesting saga with his pastors much like JoJ did back a few years ago.

Overall, the pastors seem committed to the stances that:

  • 1 Corinthians on women being silent in Church needs to be looked at in terms of cultural relevance.
  • If you’re spiritually immature, you should expect your wife won’t submit. Similar to intelligent submission. Pastors putting more “qualifiers” on submission against Scripture.
  • The wife needs to the leader of her home if her husband isn’t leading [spiritually].
  • Women/wives should be able to teach [from the pulpit] if what they are saying is correct.

I’ve already covered some of this before in why women are prohibited from certain positions in the Church, but overall their stance reeks of the idol of “progressivism.”

For those of you new, Progressivism is pretty much a catch-all term for feminism and its liberal cousins. It is something along the lines of “we know more today than we did yesterday hence what we did in the past is now outdated.”

Obviously, progressivism is based on so-called knowledge, and we know the Scripture’s stance on knowledge:

Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; Fools despise wisdom and instruction.

1 Corinthians 8:Now concerning things sacrificed to idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge [a]makes arrogant, but love edifies. 2 If anyone supposes that he knows anything, he has not yet known as he ought to know; 3 but if anyone loves God, he is known by Him.

It’s funny how so many pastors want to bring the Scriptures to “cultural relevance.” Christians are not supposed to be culturally relevant. They are supposed to salt and light. We’re supposed to stand out for being different. Jesus warned about being culturally relevant:

Matthew 5:13 “You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt has become tasteless, how [e]can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled under foot by men.

14 “You are the light of the world. A city set on a [f]hill cannot be hidden; 15 nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a [g]basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16 Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.

Here’s some Christian common sense, often rarely used: if your stance on any theological issue in the Scriptures agrees with culture, you’re probably wrong. Culture is in direct opposition to Christ. They hate everything God calls blessed.

If the Scriptures tell us that women should not be teaching and/or having authority over men in Church, and culture tells you otherwise… then why would you believe the culture if you’re a Christian? Even if what they are saying is theologically sound, it’s not their place.

All this “cultural wisdom” being integrated into Christianity and you wonder why Western Christianity is dying. It’s no different than the culture on which it is trying to reach. It’s not salty and it’s not light.

Also, it seems like this whole “saga” was much less about women preaching in church but rather about cutting men down, specifically Snapper. It only “started” after they got wind of his personal situation, and they appear to be making snarky messages to antagonize after preaching about it in Church.

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6 Responses to If you’re spiritually immature, you should expect your wife won’t submit

  1. feeriker says:

    If the Scriptures tell us that women should not be teaching and/or having authority over men in Church, and culture tells you otherwise… then why would you believe the culture if you’re a Christian? Even if what they are saying is theologically sound, it’s not their place.

    All this “cultural wisdom” being integrated into Christianity and you wonder why Western Christianity is dying. It’s no different than the culture on which it is trying to reach. It’s not salty and it’s not light.

    Guys, I think it is past time we acknowledge a very ugly truth: at least 95 percent of those we encounter in any given church, INCLUDING PASTORS AND (SO-CALLED) “ELDERS,” are “Christians Lite.” The have no interest whatsoever in actually walking the talk if it costs them anything in the world. The fact that almost no real fruits are being yielded by any church today in the western world beyond the ability to pack sanctuaries full of people wanting their ears tickled for two hours on a Sunday morning before they go back to being their worldly selves for the other 6.75 days of the week, and the filling of collection plates to the point of overflowing, should serve as proof of this.

    I think SnapperTrx will ultimately not only wind up leaving his heretical “church,” but will wind up “homechurching,” a trend that I only see spreading like wildfire as more and more people wake up to the reasons why their own churches are failing so epically. The one possible silver lining is that maybe, just maybe, this will awaken some otherwise somnolent fence-sitters and move some established churches to “clean house” and walk the talk.

  2. OKRickety says:

    “If your stance on any theological issue in the Scriptures agrees with culture, you’re probably wrong.”

    At the very least you ought to double-check the Scriptures to make certain you have it right.

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  4. Jonadab-the-Rechabite says:

    2 Timothy 3:5 …having a form of piety, and its power having denied;

    Yep, that about sums it up. A church that has lost its saltiness, forgotten its first love, but has some fat pastors. It reminds me of this:

    Ezekiel 34:2-10 “Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel; prophesy, and say to them, even to the shepherds, Thus says the Lord GOD: Ah, shepherds of Israel who have been feeding yourselves! Should not shepherds feed the sheep? 3 You eat the fat, you clothe yourselves with the wool, you slaughter the fat ones, but you do not feed the sheep. 4 The weak you have not strengthened, the sick you have not healed, the injured you have not bound up, the strayed you have not brought back, the lost you have not sought, and with force and harshness you have ruled them. 5 So they were scattered, because there was no shepherd, and they became food for all the wild beasts. 6 My sheep were scattered; they wandered over all the mountains and on every high hill. My sheep were scattered over all the face of the earth, with none to search or seek for them. 7 “Therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the LORD: 8 As I live, declares the Lord GOD, surely because my sheep have become a prey, and my sheep have become food for all the wild beasts, since there was no shepherd, and because my shepherds have not searched for my sheep, but the shepherds have fed themselves, and have not fed my sheep, 9 therefore, you shepherds, hear the word of the LORD: 10 Thus says the Lord GOD, Behold, I am against the shepherds, and I will require my sheep at their hand and put a stop to their feeding the sheep. No longer shall the shepherds feed themselves. I will rescue my sheep from their mouths, that they may not be food for them.

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