Thoughts on Charlottesville

In the wake of Charlottesville, this is pretty much the only article I’ve seen of 50+ that actually delves to the root of the problem. It’s by a reformed white nationalist.

Here’s some of the relevant bits:

I think ultimately people become extremists not necessarily because of the ideology. I think that the ideology is simply a vehicle to be violent. I believe that people become radicalized, or extremist, because they’re searching for three very fundamental human needs: identity, community and a sense of purpose.

If, underneath that fundamental search is something that’s broken — I call them potholes — is there abuse or trauma or mental illness or addiction? In my case, many years ago, it was abandonment. I felt abandoned, and that led me to this community. But what happens is because there are so many marginalized young people, so many disenfranchised young people today with not a lot to believe in, with not a lot of hope, they tend to search for very simple black and white answers.

Because of the Internet, we now have this propaganda machine that is flooding the Internet with conspiracy theory propaganda from the far right — disinformation — and when a young person who feels disenchanted, or disaffected, goes online where most of them live, they’re able to find that identity online.

They’re able to find that community, and they’re able to find that purpose that’s being fed to them by savvy recruiters who understand how to target vulnerable young people. And they go for this solution because, frankly, it promises paradise. And it requires very little work except for dedicating your life to that purpose.

But I can say that they’re all being fooled, because the people at the very top have an agenda. And it’s a broken ideology that can never work, that in fact, is destroying people’s lives more than the promise that they were given of helping the world or saving the white race.

He correctly identifies “what” the problem is: people are lacking identity, community, and a sense of purpose. However, he doesn’t have the correct answers to “why” this problem came about.

Of course, neither the “right” or the “left” are anywhere near correct. Both sides of the coin are committing acts of terrorism. The only real answer is Jesus.

Why are people lacking identity, community, and a sense of purpose?

All of this goes back to broken families and lack of fathers. We’ve all seen the statistics on crime, earlier sex and increase STD rates, decreased graduation rates, and so on. This is simply another manifestation of that. The groups or rather “gangs” they get involved in because they had no solid family structure and love are these “hate groups.” Gangs commit crimes. Surprise.

Europe hasn’t had the same problems as the US with similar out of wedlock birthrates and lack of fatherhood, namely because their population(s) are still fairly homogeneous. However, they still have tons of men and women who are broken and disillusioned; they just don’t express it in terms of racial politics as their country(s) are not as diverse as ours.

Of course, if you point out this “problem” to anyone on the right or the left, they will still tell you that “no fault divorce” and “child support” and “women get the children in divorce” and other laws that encourage blowing up marriages are a good thing.

Jesus fills the ultimate identity and purpose hole in our hearts because we were never supposed to be separated from God in the first place. Marriage was also meant to be forever for good reason: both the father and mother are needed to raise kids that are not broken and disillusioned which prevents them from getting sucked into perverse ideologies.

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17 Responses to Thoughts on Charlottesville

  1. theasdgamer says:

    Both sides of the coin are committing acts of terrorism.

    Read Heartiste’s report about Charlottesville.

    All of this goes back to broken families and lack of fathers.

    Yeah, socialist indoctrination in education has no impact. You conservatives are really quite ignorant about how organized socialists are.

    Europe hasn’t had the same problems as the US with similar out of wedlock birthrates and lack of fatherhood, namely because their population(s) are still fairly homogeneous.

    I’m sure the French and Germans and Russians would totally agree with you. They’ve never experienced socialist or ethnic or islamic violence in their countries.

    Europe’s out of wedlock birth rates? Lol, what birth rates?

  2. @ theasdgamer

    Yeah, socialist indoctrination in education has no impact. You conservatives are really quite ignorant about how organized socialists are.

    That proves my point. One of the key tenets of socialism is to destroy the family. One of the ways that they do that is through the educational system.

    I’m sure the French and Germans and Russians would totally agree with you. They’ve never experienced socialist or ethnic or islamic violence in their countries.

    This is a relatively recent problem than the longstanding white/black tensions in the US as Islamic immigration has increased in the EU.

  3. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Deep Strength,
    While this is the first foray into commenting on the political realm that I have seen you make, I don’t think you could have picked a more ugly event. We are fortunate that things did not go worse than they did. From what I could see, all authorities, from the State on down, were operating in reckless disregard of the rule of law and the Constitution.

  4. @ fuzziewuzziebear

    Honestly, it’s only going to get worse. Wouldn’t be surprised to see martial law imposed in various cities if riots and protests get out of hand in the next 5-10 years.

  5. Novaseeker says:

    Of course.

    The issus is fatherlessness, and that is generally blamed on men, instead of blaming the women who choose to be bred by such men. Unless and until we as a culture have the cojones to do the latter, we’re done. More C’Ville to come.

  6. theasdgamer says:

    I’m really picky right now, lol. Bear with me.

    Europe hasn’t had the same problems as the US with similar out of wedlock birthrates and lack of fatherhood, namely because their population(s) are still fairly homogeneous.

    Homogeneous, really? I guess if arabs are considered white, France could be considered homogeneous and Italy likewise.

  7. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    D.S.,
    I think that, for the short term, it will get worse. I can’t see the long term.

  8. Since this is in my wheel house:

    – This was a well-constructed PsyOps.
    – This was in Blue Territory and most of the real organizations going were incredibly stupid in their planning.
    – The Police, Local Government & State Gov acted to get people killed.
    – The actual point was to get the Militia guys to open fire on Antifa.
    – The KKK has always been part of the Thug Wing of the Democrats; they burned them out when they became a problem. Now they exist as an FBI-controlled prop.

    Identity Politics are here to stay. You can go read up on the Hart-Cellar Act of 1965 all you want, but this is headed towards Civil War 2.0 because that’s what certain Elites have been pushing for a century. (They want to make the West into something like Central America: low-IQ dark skinned ruled over by a higher-IQ light-skinned Elite. Yes, these people are evil.)

    Further, this is just another step in the Religious War the West has been in for over 200 years. Leftist politics is *religious* in nature. That’s why there is True Believers. It’s why this only ends in 1 way: Slaughter.

    Only nice part is that the Left is going to burn their own cities down, so at least it’ll be easier to rebuild and persecution of Christians will be limited.

  9. theasdgamer says:

    I posted today’s headlines from the socialist rag, “The Nation”, over on Rollo’s site. Shows that socialism and feminism are bosom buddies.

  10. Hrmm… I made a post, but I think it got eaten. Oh well.

    While I appreciate the “pox on both your houses” approach, that isn’t quite the appropriate response to the situation.

    This was a setup to get people killed, a coordinated Media PsyOps and a whole host of illegal activities on the order of local/state authorities.

    As Christians, our first objection is to reject lies, and this was part of a Propaganda war. All major Media is propaganda, and Christians are fools to not act like it. There are major forces that want you dead and are after your soul. The forces that want to gain the whole world are out in force and hunting for our souls.

    This is actually just another battle in the long running Western Religion War, though Charlottesville didn’t have too much to do with Christians directly. It was a constructed action to be used as a club against the rest of the country, however it appears that Antifa are going to be burning down “blue” cities. Which isn’t too surprising. (Read this: https://infogalactic.com/info/Reign_of_Terror this is the native instinct of Leftism as a religion. They destroy everything they touch.)

  11. Daniel says:

    This was a violent clash between two opposed groups of protesters. Every brawl is not terrorism. Terrorism generally includes unpredictable acts of violence against a community for the purpose of instilling fear. The man who drove the car into the crowd is a murderer.

    The whole idea of counter-protest is problematic. What is the purpose of obtaining a permit to protest, if not to alert law enforcement that counter-protesters will need to be kept away to avoid a violent clash. Staging a counter protest is akin to inciting a riot. If BLM has a permit to demonstrate, it should be illegal for Unite the Right to show up to counter-protest, and vice-versa. Charlottesville is a very liberal town. Did this play into their decision to allow the counter-protest?

    Yes, people are suffering from fatherlessness, and other problems caused by rebellion against God. Men will not look to his own sinfulness as the cause of his problems, unless God changes the heart. Instead, they are unthankful and hateful, hating one another. They look for someone to blame. Racists become convinced that another race is the root of the pain they are experiencing. Others blame other groups – there are religious haters, political haters, sexist haters, and more.

  12. thedeti says:

    “This was a setup to get people killed, a coordinated Media PsyOps and a whole host of illegal activities on the order of local/state authorities.”

    Aside from the fatherlessness, this is an important point. Word from folks like Faith Goldy and Stefan Molyneux is that Unite the Right had a permit; then the permit was revoked, then a court order was entered directing the city of Charlottesville to reissue the permit. Unite the Right then did their thing, with police there initially because of demonstrators and Antifa/Resistance counterdemonstrators. Police were then under “stand down” orders. Once both sides were in place, Antifa did what everyone knew they would – they started with violent attacks against the Unite demonstrators. There was no police line separating the two groups – in what appears to be an intentional decision to let the two groups start fighting.

    There’s at least some evidence to support a claim that the city and the local police left Unite as sitting ducks, knowing it would explode into violence, and then the Alt Right would be blamed for whatever happened.

  13. thedeti says:

    deep:

    WordPress ate one of my comments. Can you fish it out?

  14. Weird. Both you and LG had posts eaten without any links. WordPress is dumb.

  15. I had a number of dashes in my first one. I normally do a copy & hold when posting, for this reason. Only 1 browser ever had a decent “written text save” add-on, and that died a while ago. Sad! We’ll keep an eye on it.

    @thedeti:

    Cville was a setup. When David Duke gets *invited* somewhere, you know it’s a setup by at least one Government Agency. But the PsyOps aspect is when everyone that isn’t a hard-core Leftist is taking flak because of something they weren’t even on the same continent with. That’s a clear sign people got played.

    As to the bigger theme of the thread, in Christian work, calling people to Repetance & Faith should be our de facto position, however it isn’t for most Christians. Probably because they barely believe in the Lord and just want the Lift they get for calling out “hate”. Our salvation was bought in blood, “cheap theater” is an insult to the Lord.

    Though, when you really need to tweak a Christian for being stupid, tell them that “hate” and “racism” aren’t Sins. That’ll force them to choose the World or the Lord, in real time. Most will fail, so keep that in mind. (The proper answer is that the phrases, as used, mean nothing specific, so they impart moral character where the Bible does not.)

  16. Their war on anyone to the Right of Mao continues apace.

    If anyone is curious, this was mostly the routine they were going to pull on Christians in the case of a Hillary victory. I’d been noting that they’ve been building up to attack all aspects of the protections of Churches, specifically for the Dem in 2016 Election. (Leftism is the root of Communism, so they always attack Christians to slaughter them.)

    It does cement how well planned of a setup the entire disaster was. They were able to activate all of the approaches they had planned for other groups pretty quickly. This entire vector, which is hitting a whole lot more than just the Neo-Nazis, clearly had preplanning. How much coordination would be needed at this point? Fairly limited.

    They were going to drive Christians off Facebook and all Social Media via the Trans/Homosexual clubs. They’d have setup a situation where some freak gets killed by a “Christian”. As we’ve seen with Cville, getting someone killed to produce a “martyr” is something the other side will do. Why wouldn’t they? They serve the Devil; that’s the nature of all of this.

  17. earl says:

    Jesus fills the ultimate identity and purpose hole in our hearts because we were never supposed to be separated from God in the first place. Marriage was also meant to be forever for good reason: both the father and mother are needed to raise kids that are not broken and disillusioned which prevents them from getting sucked into perverse ideologies.

    Taking God out of the context of marriage (Christ and his church) is also another reason why divorce has skyrocketed and the subsequent getting sucked into perverse ideologies.

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