Violence is still sexy

From USA Today:

Nikolas Cruz, the teen accused of killing 17 people in a shooting rampage at a Florida high school last month, is attracting an avalanche of mail from fans offering friendship, encouragement and sexually provocative photos.

The South Florida Sun Sentinel obtained hundreds of pages of photocopies of letters and photos sent to Cruz, 19, who is being held while awaiting trial on a litany of charges including 17 counts of first degree murder.

“No one else is dealing w/your demons, meaning maybe defeating them could be the beginning of your meaning, friend,” an 18-year-old from New York wrote in a letter decorated with pink hearts. “I know you could use a good friend right now. Hang in there and keep your head up.”

A woman from Chicago sent Cruz nine photos, including a photo in a bikini, one of her cleavage and another of her posterior. A Texas woman commented on his “beautiful” eyes and “handsome” freckles.

Cruz is on suicide watch and is not permitted to receive mail, most of which is opened by jail officials. Broward County Public Defender Howard Finkelstein, whose office is representing Cruz, told the Sun Sentinel he has never seen so much mail for a defendant in his 40 years as a public defender.

“We read a few religious ones to him that extended wishes for his soul and to come to God,” Finkelstein said, “We have not and will not read him the fan letters or share the photos of scantily clad teenage girls.”

Steven Dubovsky, the University at Buffalo chair of Psychiatry who has studied mass shootings, says some people get a kind of “notoriety and fame by association” with heinous killers.

“Anybody with real relationships or any firm grasp on reality is not going to engage in this behavior,” Dubovsky said. “You have people who have no real gratification in life.”

Cruz is not the first mass murderer to draw a rabid fan following. Charles Manson, who died in prison in November, was briefly engaged in 2014 to a woman who ran the website Release Charles Manson Now.

“It’s like hanging out with a rock star or being a groupie,” Dubovsky said. “There are a lot of groupies around. So they are murder groupies instead of a rock star groupies.”

Finkelstein said he worries that young people are looking up to Cruz: “That scares me. It’s perverted.”

Violence is a very strong attraction for women. This is rooted in the ‘protector’ type instinct in women. The only thing we would argue about is the ‘degree’ to which violence is sexy. Some women think killers are sexy. Some women love when their boyfriend beats them. Some women only love to be protected using violence. Of course, many would draw the line somewhere and call women who love killers or women who love to get beat crazy, but the fact still remains.

One of the things I think that is good for young men and husbands is to learn how to fight. Sign up for a Krav Maga classes or other types of fighting courses. Extra credit for doing it with your wife or girlfriend so they can see the ferocity and the strength of men (including yourself) compared to women.

Men who know how to fight carry themselves differently than men who don’t.

It’s always good to have male strength on your side in this day and age and will likely make it easier for your wife to submit to your leadership.

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20 Responses to Violence is still sexy

  1. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    This has popped up in a few places today. The problem is that this is a fatal flaw in women that can’t lead to any benefit. Humans have always been social and I can’t imagine a scenario in which this advantage women. Antisocial men are still antisocial, making them bad mating prospects. There is little point in trying to rationalize this in order to excuse it.

  2. earl says:

    It’s always good to have male strength on your side in this day and age and will likely make it easier for your wife to submit to your leadership.

    Agree with the first part…not so sure about the second.

  3. @earl:

    Vegetables covered in a tasty sauce are far more palatable than vegetables covered in mud. You still have to choose to eat the vegetables, but one is significantly easier than the other. Submission is still an active choice, but it can be made much easier.

    The problem too many Men have is there is no way to actually force it. You can’t do X, Y & Z, then she’ll submit. It doesn’t work that way, but it also shouldn’t require Biblical Reference levels of Faith because you physically repulse her by your weakness.

  4. earl says:

    This isn’t meant to derail the man needing to be strong and knowing how to fight…this is my apprehension that submission from women no matter what you do can be made easier. It’s really more on her to get that.

  5. Novaseeker says:

    The problem is that this is a fatal flaw in women that can’t lead to any benefit. Humans have always been social and I can’t imagine a scenario in which this advantage women.

    “Sexy son hypothesis”. In other words, women who breed with men like that may, in turn, have male children who resemble that man, and who therefore also has similar mating opportunities as that man, thereby passing on her genes. It isn’t socially helpful, but from the point of view of gene propagation, it is explainable. Now, it’s not the best strategy (the best strategy is breeding with the king), but it’s one of many strategies available to women who do not have access to the king (or equivalent).

  6. This is rooted in the ‘protector’ type instinct in women.

    Debatable. How about this; women see this as a guy who plays by his own rules and they find that exciting, with the violence aspect being a force multiplier.

  7. Jonadab-the-Rechabite says:

    Bad boys -> tingles the V
    Sin -> tingles the soul

    “Stolen water is sweet, And bread eaten in secret is pleasant.” But he does not know that the dead are there, That her guests are in the depths of hell.
    Proverbs 9:17‭-‬18

    A woman of virtue, who can find? Prob. 31:10

    Face the facts, women are sinners who are rarely called to repentance, but celebrated for their sins. And sinners love company, bad company.

  8. @ earl

    This isn’t meant to derail the man needing to be strong and knowing how to fight…this is my apprehension that submission from women no matter what you do can be made easier. It’s really more on her to get that.

    It’s a two way street.

    The husband has choices he can make that facilitate submission, but ultimately the wife needs to choose to submit.

    This helps wives in the category of “wants to submit but it’s hard for them to” but it doesn’t help the overtly rebellious wives. A decent chunk of Christian wives are in the “wants to submit but it’s hard for them to” position.

    This is teaching wives to build good habits: the more you choose to do the right thing the easier it will be to do the right thing even when it is more difficult. Similar to LG’s vegetables analogy.

  9. @ Kentucky Headhunter, Jonadab

    Okay, sure. We can argue how much is “Protector” versus “bad boys.”

    It’s worthwhile to note that all women want to be protected across all ethnicities and cultures. It’s pretty hot when you physically defend your woman from attackers (although you would never want to be put in that situation in the first place).

    Are we now arguing that the ‘bad boys’ aspect of temptation is when it’s crossing a moral line? For example, the two in the OP: Nicolas getting love letters, and the girlfriend arguing that getting beat is loving?

    Or are we arguing that all potential violence is sexy because it’s bad. I don’t think that argument can be made based on available circumstances.

  10. Jonadab-the-Rechabite says:

    @DS
    What do women need a protector for? They got them the government, moxie and kick-ass girl-power.

  11. Women who profess love for mass-murderers or like to be beaten by their boyfriends ARE crazy by definition. Let’s just write them off. You don’t want anything to do with them.

    It’s pretty hot when you physically defend your woman from attackers…
    Women better be hot for the man who wins the fight because (historically) that’s who is going be sticking it in them that night. That part of a woman’s makeup is adaptive.

  12. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Novaseeker,
    I think you missed the mark. There is something fundamental here and we may not want to find out where this leads.

  13. earl says:

    ‘This is teaching wives to build good habits: the more you choose to do the right thing the easier it will be to do the right thing even when it is more difficult. ‘

    Problem is most girls get taught bad habits from a young age which are harder to overcome when they get to marriagable age. As much as men aren’t men and should strive to be stronger, women aren’t women and should strive to be more open, receptive, pleasant, and submissive.

  14. earl says:

    And when I mention these traits…I mean in her heart. Doing those things with her body with strange men is almost the only baseline many women have anymore. It’s backwards.

  15. earl says:

    Women who profess love for mass-murderers or like to be beaten by their boyfriends ARE crazy by definition. Let’s just write them off. You don’t want anything to do with them.

    Yeah a simple explaination like that is much better than assuming that’s what their ‘hypergamous natures’ want. I bet if you dig hard enough most of these women who love murderers or like getting love taps from her brute probably had little to no or a weak father in her life…and that makes more sense as to why they choose that type of guy over a guy who would protect her when danger arises.

  16. Jonadab-the-Rechabite says:

    Women want, no make that crave drama. They want danger, but no too much to threaten their safety. They want security, but not too much last they become bored and catch that “problem with no name”. They want violent men, but not the kind that do violence, they want adventure, but not the kind that might be too adventurous. It’s the drama! What is more dramatic than a relationship with a psychopath? Only being a psychopath.

  17. bdash 77 says:

    this is not want Christian teach
    Christian teach young men to go home and cook dinner, do her laundry and do her dishes to serve her so she is willing to be your helpmeet…

  18. techwriter2 says:

    Women who have suffered a trauma are the ones that want the crazy bad boy type.

  19. earl says:

    this is not want Christian teach
    Christian teach young men to go home and cook dinner, do her laundry and do her dishes to serve her so she is willing to be your helpmeet…

    Have you figured out yet that’s not Christian. That’s feminism masquerading as Christianity.

  20. bdash 77 says:

    @earl
    which would mean most people on earth preaching the Gospel are NOT christians….

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