Take up your cross

In the spirit of the Roosh post a couple days ago, let’s go over the verses he mentioned:

Matthew 16:24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me. 25 For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. 26 For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul? 27 For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds.

There’s several interesting things about this verse.

  • Jesus is subtly predicting the manner in which he would die
  • Jesus is very graphic: “take up your cross” to the 1st century Jew would mean that you would literally carry the cross to the place where you would die a criminal’s death in shame (nakedness) and suffering.
  • This is the cost of discipleship (deny self and follow): you must be willing to sacrifice everything for His purpose/mission and follow Him until death. ]

It’s a very sobering passage, and so far I think Roosh understands that since he’s trying to totally change his behavior. Hopefully he will come to the understanding that follow Jesus also means carrying out His mission: make disciples of all nations and teach them about Jesus.

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4 Responses to Take up your cross

  1. Sharkly says:

    I like Jesus parallel statement in Mark 8:
    Mark 8:34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel’s, the same shall save it. 36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? 37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? 38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

    My wife’s church, and most all other churches are ashamed that the Bible tells wives to submit to their husbands in everything, as unto the Lord. They are too ashamed of those words of God to preach them, but instead they preach a satanic anti-Christ alternative. That is why they are going to hell, even though they will say, “Lord, Lord, didn’t we have potlucks and vacation Bible school in your name.”
    Apparently the single mom’s that fill their pews need somewhere to drop off their father deprived kids during the summer, so that they can take a break from being a mother to them also. If the churches weren’t so ashamed of Jesus words, they’d be saying the same type of thing to them that Jesus did:
    John 4:16 Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.

    They’re ashamed that God’s word tells my wife to submit to me even if I obey not the word. That women were created secondly, for men, to serve them as helpers. That women should wear a symbol of the authority that is over them on their heads. And any other thing in the Bible that pulls the rug out from under their idolatrous Feminist Goddess worship. Their being ashamed of God’s word is an evidence of a supreme lack of faith in God. Apparently their God is not the all wise all knowing God, but a fool who says stuff that shouldn’t be repeated, because they are more enlightened than God, and know more these days, than to believe every stupid thing He said.

    Come out from among them and be ye separate, you should know not to even eat with such idolaters who claim to be Christian brothers and sisters. I’ve been separating from these false brethren, and been hauling my cross. Although hauling my cross is not fun, separating myself from the kooky idolatrous false brethren has been a relief, and only made my life better.

  2. Jacob says:

    Give Roosh time to work out what being Christian means to him. His real faith journey may well be just beginning, even though he said he has religious underpinnings. He needs to follow the right path and not take any shortcuts.

    Christian sanctification, submission, strengthening and sacrifice come from the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and the ongoing changing work He is doing in a Christian’s being. Those four actions are a roadmap up the holy mountain.

    Disciples of Jesus must walk this path without taking shortcuts, as any deviation leads back down the mountain. The example is Jesus, he was first set apart, then submitted wholly to his Father, through this his journey was strengthened, then finally he embodied sacrifice. The path is Jesus Himself.

    It’s great that we’re looking at the gospel of Matthew, as this journey is clearly evident:

    Mt 1-7 Journey of submission
    Mt 8-25 Journey of strength
    Mt 26-28 Journey of sacrifice

    NB. The edges are blurred and it’s key that Matthew was not writing about Jesus chronologically. This may be because Matthew was trying to show how these Christ-like journeys are woven into the complexities of everyday life and not always easy to differentiate.

    Walking the narrow path is hard. Temptation is everywhere, not least the temptation to take shortcuts. Churchianity is a consequence of taking shortcuts – i.e. strength and sacrifice without complete submission. Even King David ended up in trouble. David completely embraced submission and walked in strength, but he failed the journey of sacrifice and brought civil war to his house and Israel.

    It’s great that Roosh is studying the gospel of Matthew. It’s a great start to any Christian’s journey. Through confession of faith one knows Jesus. Through submission one becomes strong. Through strength one is able to sacrifice. In sacrifice God is glorified. That’s what it means to take up one’s cross and follow Jesus.

  3. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    While I can’t see Roosh going all in promoting religion, I can see him trying to a way to help people to form families and get married. In the past, his most popular posts were those making a mockery of feminists. If he could do this, it would be no small thing and it would annoy feminists to an even greater extent.

  4. Joe2 says:

    “so far I think Roosh understands that since he’s trying to totally change his behavior”

    In the above phrase the word “he” seems to be emphasized. In other words, is he trying to make changes and live the Christian life using his own effort? If so, such an attempt would be misguided because he would be substituting his personal effort for the work of the Holy Spirit. As pointed out in another comment, “Christian sanctification, submission, strengthening and sacrifice come from the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and the ongoing changing work He is doing in a Christian’s being.”

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