Delusions of blue and purple and removing the haze

Want to quick comment on Jacks’ post on blue and purple structures.

What is the Purple System?

First of all, the classic definition of the Purple Pill is trying to apply Red Pill insights and praxeology to solve Blue Pill problems. It is still a Blue hierarchy, but one in which the man is Red Pill informed and usually very confused. In some cases, the Purple Pill is a transition stage, AKA Purple Haze, in which a man wakes up to Red Pill reality, but is still living in a Blue Pill structure / system. It takes some time to realize that Blue Pill problems can never be solved without completely abandoning the Blue Pill system. Men usually don’t complete the transition unless there is suffering involved, and the more suffering there is, the faster the transition is. Purple Haze is rather rare anymore, since the Red Pill went mainstream.

Generally, the only way purple and blue structures can exist effectively without devolving into destructive structures (e.g. woman nagging, contentious, etc.) is if something is propping up the system.

One can be totally delusional about how attraction works and still be in a godly successful marriage. However, the only way this generally occurs for men is if they are naturally attractive and/or naturally good with women. These men can believe in “true love” because they have never really experienced the opposite and it’s easy for them to get women.

In other words, their naturally attractiveness or charisma is propping up their delusion that women will love them unconditionally for who they are.

It is also notable that some to many pastors tend to fall into this category. The “godliness is sexy” mantra is repeated by pastors all the time, and they believe it’s true because it “worked” for them. They were pursuing God’s kingdom and women dropped into their lap, and they were generally able to marry a fairly to very attractive woman who wanted to be with him,

Of course, what they don’t see is that their position was propping up their success with woman and not their godliness. The power and status of being a Church leader is what was attracting women to them. I’m not saying this is the only thing as there are also pastors who are very charismatic, excellent social skills, humor, and other things women find attractive. However, they are deluded into thinking that their success with women is because of their potential godliness.

The Janitor example I always bring up is the case in point. Women are attracted to the Church leader, pastor, worship leader, and not the janitor, greeters, or parking lot coordinators.

Circling back, the only way these men wake up to the delusion is if their bubble is popped either by their own experience or see other’s experiences and learn from them. If they suddenly get sick and have to step down as a pastor and their wife leaves them. Or they see so many counseling cases from other men that that they can’t keep living in the delusion that godliness is attractive when their advice fails time and time again.

Society had propped up men for the longest time — greater status, better jobs, masculine men accepted, etc. — through the 1970s to maybe 1980s. However, once the system to prop up men disintegrates then you have a thorough falling out where less and less men are caught in the delusions of blue and purple.

This is why the younger generations growing up now like GenZ and others easily call out SIMPing, White Knighting, and other behaviors that are net negatives on getting women or being successful in relationships and marriages. There’s nothing anymore to prop up the delusions.

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15 Responses to Delusions of blue and purple and removing the haze

  1. Bardelys the Magnificent says:

    This has been pointed out before, but naturally gifted athletes typically make horrible coaches. Michael Jordan famously held his teammates in contempt because they couldn’t do what he could do. He attributed it to lack of drive, and not his superior God-given talent.

    The thing that propped men up in the past was authority. Men had it and were tasked with wielding it successfully and charitably. Now men no longer have authority, and worse than that we don’t even have the benefit of the doubt. The worst is presumed of us before we even make it out of bed in the morning. You can never run a successful *anything* with that as your baseline.

  2. @ Sharkly

    I agree, but totally off topic. You can post that on your blog.

  3. @ Bardelys the Magnificent

    This has been pointed out before, but naturally gifted athletes typically make horrible coaches. Michael Jordan famously held his teammates in contempt because they couldn’t do what he could do. He attributed it to lack of drive, and not his superior God-given talent.

    Yup, it’s easy for the gifted to overlook things that naturally come easy to them until they have issues.

    The thing that propped men up in the past was authority. Men had it and were tasked with wielding it successfully and charitably. Now men no longer have authority, and worse than that we don’t even have the benefit of the doubt. The worst is presumed of us before we even make it out of bed in the morning. You can never run a successful *anything* with that as your baseline.

    Yeah, In the whole of society. Though one place men can still do well is the Church with learning to lead and exercise authority well there, so that should be the target for Christian men now.

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  7. theasdgamer says:

    “However, the only way this generally occurs for men is if they are naturally attractive and/or naturally good with women.”

    Kind of the same thing, aren’t they? Men who are good with women will naturally attract women.

  8. @ theasdgamer

    “However, the only way this generally occurs for men is if they are naturally attractive and/or naturally good with women.”

    Kind of the same thing, aren’t they? Men who are good with women will naturally attract women.

    No, there are ugly or relatively plain men who are naturally good with women.

    Attraction is as much as it is in PSALM traits as it is in other traits like masculinity, charisma, humor, and others which tend to make men more attractive to women.

  9. theasdgamer says:

    Men care about looks. Women care about other things. Attraction for women doesn’t have to do with looks. Exception: body language…standing straight and tall, chest out, belly in, hands free, feet not close together, unworried

  10. @ theasdgamer

    Men care about looks. Women care about other things. Attraction for women doesn’t have to do with looks. Exception: body language…standing straight and tall, chest out, belly in, hands free, feet not close together, unworried

    Women do care about looks.

    How do you think women rated 80% of men unnattractive on places like OKCupid? Online dating is mostly based off looks.

    Why do you think women fawn all over Henry Cavill, Chris Adams, Chris Hemsworth, Brad Pitt, and so on. Yeah, cause they are rich but they are also physically and facially attractive.

  11. theasdgamer says:

    Sean Penn. How old was his girlfriend when they met?

    Charles Bronson took Jill Ireland from David McCallum. McCallum is much better looking.

    OKCupid is a strange, artificial context.

    Pretty women I didn’t know in their 20s and 30s were dancing with me all night and I’m near 70. Of course, the first 7 I asked refused. They were early 20s, wearing too much makeup, and blonde and stupid. I chose them deliberately. Persevering shows strength of mind and character.

    Near the end of the night, pretty girls in their 20s & 30s (not much makeup) were wanting to dance cuddly and initiating bear hugs after dances. I’m wrinkly with some age spots.

  12. @ theasdgamer

    Sean Penn. How old was his girlfriend when they met?

    Charles Bronson took Jill Ireland from David McCallum. McCallum is much better looking.

    Exceptions don’t negate the rule.

    Just because some men can have other attractive or personality factors that can compensate for not as good looks does not mean that looks are not important.

  13. theasdgamer says:

    What are the mountains for attracting women?

    Confidence, social dominance, strength

    What are the mole hills, except on social media?

    Physical beauty.

    Compare a tall man who slouches with a short man who stands straight. Body language matters when it comes to looks.

  14. @ asd

    Compare a tall man who slouches with a short man who stands straight. Body language matters when it comes to looks.

    No one is disputing body language matters. But physical characteristics like height, facial symmetry, jaw line, musculature, and such also matter.

    All things being equal with posture included most women are going to choose taller rather than shorter.

  15. theasdgamer says:

    In real life, things are almost never equal. Only in the lab.

    Tom Cruise is short. But he’s also a movie star.

    Gregory Peck’s looks are inferior to Cruise’s but Peck got laid more.

    Self confidence and social dominance will trump unchangeable looks every time.

    Women have higher expectations if a man looks attractive. Often, looks and confidence go together, but if a man has had a blow to his confidence, his looks may not help him.

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