Defining the headship authority model from Genesis to Christ and His Church

One thing that I think helps with understanding the Biblical models of headship-submission and love-respect is understanding how Christ and the Church emulates the model that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit lay out in Genesis.

A Christian understanding of attraction, and the role it plays in marriage: Dominion is baked into the cake. Part 4

  • Rule and subdue the earth — 26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” […] 28b and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
  • Be fruitful and multiply — 28a God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth,

We will come back to these two commands after the next point.

Genesis 2:15 Then the Lord God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it. 16 The Lord God commanded the man, saying, “From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; 17 but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.”

God has two more commands:

  • Cultivate and keep the garden (directed to Adam and not Eve)
  • Don’t eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil

18 Then the Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable for him.” 19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the sky, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called a living creature, that was its name. 20 The man gave names to all the cattle, and to the birds of the sky, and to every beast of the field, but for Adam there was not found a helper suitable for him.

21 So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place. 22 The Lord God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man. 23 The man said,“This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man.” 24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. 25 And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.

Genesis 2 gives us more details about the ordering of creation. Man was created first, but there was no helper suitable for him. Hence, God created a helper suitable for him.

  • The first command — rule and subdue the earth — could be fulfilled by Adam himself such as taking dominion over the beasts as they came to him and gave them names (Genesis 2). However, Eve could help with that.
  • The second command — be fruitful and multiply — was unable to be fulfilled without Eve.
  • The third command — cultivate and keep the garden — was being tended to by Adam but Eve could help with.
  • The fourth command — Obey God: do not eat of the tree — Eve could obey as well.

The 4 main commands that God lays out in Genesis for man and woman are these.


How does Jesus call Christians — His bride the Church — to emulate these 4 different commands?

  • The first command — rule and subdue the earth — could be fulfilled by Adam himself such as taking dominion over the beasts as they came to him and gave them names (Genesis 2). However, Eve could help with that.
  • The second command — be fruitful and multiply — was unable to be fulfilled without Eve.

The first of these is exemplified in the Great Commission.

Matthew 28:8 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. 19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to follow all that I commanded you; and behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

Jesus delegates the authority to the disciples and Church to take dominion over all of the earth by making disciples of all nations.

The Christian act of being fruitful and multiplying is not purely a reproductive act by Christian husbands and wives but discipleship is a form of son-ship.

1 Timothy 1:18 Timothy, my son, I am giving you this command in keeping with the prophecies once made about you, so that by recalling them you may fight the battle well,

2 Timothy 1:2 To Timothy, my dear son: Grace, mercy and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord. Thanksgiving 3 I thank God, whom I serve, as my ancestors did, with a clear conscience, as night and day I constantly remember you in my prayers. 4 Recalling your tears, I long to see you, so that I may be filled with joy. 5 I am reminded of your sincere faith, which first lived in your grandmother Lois and in your mother Eunice and, I am persuaded, now lives in you also. Appeal for Loyalty to Paul and the Gospel 6 For this reason I remind you to fan into flame the gift of God, which is in you through the laying on of my hands. 7 For the Spirit God gave us does not make us timid, but gives us power, love and self-discipline.

Just as Jesus made us sons and daughters of God, the same thing happens when we are both physical fathers and mothers but also spiritual fathers and mothers to the new generation of Christians. This is building them up from being born again in the faith (John 3) to spiritual infants (1 Corinthians 3, 1 Peter 2, Hebrews 5-6) to maturity in Christ (1 Corinthians 13, Hebrews 5, Ephesians 4, Colossians 1, et al) and making disciples of their own (Matthew 28).

1 Corinthians 11:2 I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. 3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

It bears repeating for the dissenters that:

  • God is the head of Christ — Jesus submitted to and obeyed the authority of God in His role here on earth even in the hard things that He did not want to do. His prayers in Gethsemane exemplify his struggle to obey God even through hardship
  • Christ is the head of the Church — Jesus calls us to obey his Commandments, and they are the way that we show that we love Him.
  • Men are the head of the Church, and husbands are the head of wives — It’s obvious that the same analogies are being used for authority with headship-submission and love-respect.

No ambiguous parsing denies the overarching themes of the Scripture.

Rather, as dominion is baked into the cake, it is Jesus authority, dominion and victory over death that attracts and draws us to Him just as wives as drawn to the dominion of husbands exemplified in the various PSALM and masculine traits. Our own humility to come under His banner leads to joining the Church and eventual marriage to Christ and Oneness.

This distinctly parallels the validational sex equation originally posited by Jack.

Validation = Domination + Sanctification (if holy)/Defilement(if unholy) –> Humility + Ego Affirmation –> Her Feeling Loved

  1. Domination (before, during, and after sex)
  2. Feeling of being possessed
  3. Humility (he takes what is his) + Ego affirmation (he wants me) + sanctification/defilement (she is his, and no other)
  4. Her feeling loved

Equation form: Validational sex = Domination (before, during, and after sex) –> Feeling of being possessed –> Humility (he takes what is his) + Ego affirmation (he wants me) + sanctification in marriage, defilement otherwise (she is his, and no other) –> Her feeling loved

The validational sex equation does not just apply to sexual attraction and sexual arousal but also to the relational and marital commitment. Indeed, we can see firsthand how women are happy and willing to change for the man they consider to be very attractive just as we as Christians are happy and willing to strive to be like Christ.

  • The third command — cultivate and keep the garden — was being tended to by Adam but Eve could help with.

The two main areas in the Church that Jesus tasks men to engage in headship to cultivate and to keep are Church (1 Corinthians 11) and of the family (Ephesians 5). This is why the headship authoritative positions are tasked to men in the Church (1 Corinthians 11-14, 1 Timothy 2) and husbands the marriage and family (1 Corinthians 11, Ephesians 5, Colossians 3, Titus 2, 1 Peer 3). The elders, overseers, and teaching roles in the Church are charged to men like it is in the the family with the husband being tasked the authoritative roles.

I’m not going to quote all of these Scriptures here, but you can explore them for yourself.

  • The fourth command — Obey God: do not eat of the tree — Eve could obey as well.

Jesus likewise gives the Church commands to obey God.

John 13:34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

John 15:9 “As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love. 10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love. 11 I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete. 12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. 14 You are my friends if you do what I command. 15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. 16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you. 17 This is my command: Love each other.

Likewise, He gives husbands the commands to use their headship authority for the purpose of sanctification to lead their wives to be more like Christ.

Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.” 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

As we know, Jesus does not denigrate authority nor deny it, but calls those in authority to love and to serve.

John 13:12 When he had finished washing their feet, he put on his clothes and returned to his place. “Do you understand what I have done for you?” he asked them. 13 “You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and rightly so, for that is what I am. 14 Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet. 15 I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you. 16 Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him. 17 Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them.


Summary

We can see the numerous examples from the perfection of Creation in Genesis to the perfection of the Christ and Church model of headship that the (male) leaders of the Church and husbands leaders of the family are supposed to emulate.

There are many examples of this model all throughout Scripture, so it should not be a surprise that husbands and wives also closely follow this model. Attraction also follows our understanding of the dynamic.

Thus, if we want to include the additional example that parallels the headship model we now have 4 forms in which it applies.

  • Headship authority-Submission
  • Love-Respect
  • Dominion-Humility
  • Commitment-Conformity

These 4 going forward can help us further understand not only the Bible but also male and female relationships.

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New data: IFStudies predicts 1/3rd of women will not be married

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I’ve gone over the spinsterhood and childlessness projections before,

They estimate it’s going to be about 25% in the long run, or approximately on the upper bounds of what I estimated. However, that’s just singleness and doesn’t necessarily include unwanted cohabitation. Therefore, the number of women that are unhappy is likely about 10% larger than that which would place that around 35%.

The new data jives closely with what I predicted which would be the unwanted spinsterhood and unwanted cohabitation would likely be around 35%. Theoretically, it could still keep getting worse but we’ll see.

Since about 33% of women are freezing themselves out the market or unwanted cohabitation, I’d estimate there’s going to be in the range of 15-20% indefinitely incel men. Some amount of these 33% women won’t want to share some man, don’t want to cohabitate, or other options but they will do it anyway.

Most men and most women will still get married and stay married, but you will want to be in the top 50% if not the top 20% to have attraction working for you in terms of being a strong, masculine leader and the rest of the attractive traits.

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A Christian understanding of attraction, and the role it plays in marriage: Dominion is baked into the cake. Part 4

For those of you who have been following this blog for a long time, I’ve consistently refined this article as my understanding of the nature of God’s Creation of attraction Part 3 and the differences between sexual attraction and arousal has increased.

This may be the final major piece of the puzzle as I’ve been thinking about this for more and more years, but perhaps it can be refined more in the future. However, I’ve decided to leave it as Part 4 for now instead of the Final take as there might be some slight revisions in the future.

I’ve been thinking about and refining this over the past couple months and been busy which is why I haven’t been posting as much. However, things are still going to be a bit slow until I can get more time in real life.


Topics:

  • The lens of heaven — marriage is an earthly institution
  • The lens of earth —  the context surrounding the creation of marriage
  • The purpose of marriage as an earthly institution
  • What is attractive to both sexes?
  • Understanding how attraction plays into the roles and responsibilities of marriage
  • New Testament Scriptures reinforce God’s Old Testament design of creation
  • Exploring the Scriptures on attraction and sex
  • Other Biblical pitfalls of downplaying attraction
  • Conclusion

The lens of heaven — marriage is an earthly institution

Marriage is an earthly institution.

Matthew 22:23 On that day some Sadducees (who say there is no resurrection) came to Jesus and questioned Him, 24 asking, “Teacher, Moses said, ‘If a man dies having no children, his brother as next of kin shall marry his wife, and raise up children for his brother.’ 25 Now there were seven brothers with us; and the first married and died, and having no children left his wife to his brother; 26 so also the second, and the third, down to the seventh. 27 Last of all, the woman died. 28 In the resurrection, therefore, whose wife of the seven will she be? For they all had married her.”

29 But Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

Jesus gives us some interesting insight into heaven. There’s no marriage there.

This means that marriage is a covenant institution between a husband, wife, and God, but it is also mainly an earthly institution. The earthly institution of marriage does not transcend to heaven nor do any of the beings in heaven marry.

In Revelation the marriage of the Lamb occurs before the new heaven and new earth is created when Jesus comes back again.

Revelation 19:7 Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself ready.” … 9 Then he *said to me, “Write, ‘Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.’” And he *said to me, “These are true words of God.” …

Revelation 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea. 2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will [a]dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them, 4 and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away.”

Theologically, the marriage of Christ and His bride is literally uniting us and making us one with Him. The ordering of events is Jesus’ second coming back to earth to marry His bride, the judgment occurs in Revelation 20, and after that is the new heaven and earth in Revelation 21.

The marriage of Jesus and His bride occurs before the new heaven and new earth is created and the temporal things associated with the old earth and old heaven pass away. One of those temporal things that passes away is the earthly institution of marriage as is written about in Matthew.

In other words, Jesus must marry His bride before the institution of marriage is abolished when the new heaven and new earth are created. Since marriage is an earthly institution and not heavenly, Jesus marries His bride on the earth.


The lens of earth —  the context surrounding the creation of marriage

Now that we understand marriage is primarily an earthly institution, we should understand that its function is to address earthly needs.

To understand marriage addressing earthly needs, we need to go back to the God’s Creation as He had a purpose there. Let’s examine the status of man in the garden in both Creation accounts. Genesis 1 is considered the first creation account, which gives an overview of all of the creation. Genesis 2 is considered the second creation account, which gives an overview into the creation of man specifically.

Genesis 1:26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the [ak]sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” 27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. 28 God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” 29 Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; 30 and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food”; and it was so. 31 God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

God’s commands to man were two fold in the first creation account in Genesis 1:

  • Rule and subdue the earth — 26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” […] 28b and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
  • Be fruitful and multiply — 28a God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth,

We will come back to these two commands after the next point.

Genesis 2:15 Then the Lord God took the man and put him into the garden of Eden to cultivate it and keep it. 16 The Lord God commanded the man, saying, “From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; 17 but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die.”

God has two more commands:

  • Cultivate and keep the garden (directed to Adam and not Eve)
  • Don’t eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil

18 Then the Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable for him.” 19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the sky, and brought them to the man to see what he would call them; and whatever the man called a living creature, that was its name. 20 The man gave names to all the cattle, and to the birds of the sky, and to every beast of the field, but for Adam there was not found a helper suitable for him.

21 So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and he slept; then He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that place. 22 The Lord God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man. 23 The man said,“This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman, Because she was taken out of Man.” 24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. 25 And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.

Genesis 2 gives us more details about the ordering of creation. Man was created first, but there was no helper suitable for him. Hence, God created a helper suitable for him.

  • The first command — rule and subdue the earth — could be fulfilled by Adam himself such as taking dominion over the beasts as they came to him and gave them names (Genesis 2). However, Eve could help with that.
  • The second command — be fruitful and multiply — was unable to be fulfilled without Eve.
  • The third command — cultivate and keep the garden — was being tended to by Adam but Eve could help with.
  • The fourth command — Obey God: do not eat of the tree — Eve could obey as well.

God knew before the animals were created and brought before Adam that he had no helper suitable for him. I believe God had this in mind before he did all of this simply because of the examples of sexual dimorphism — two sexes — within the animals he created as well. Indeed, to Adam’s male God wanted to create a female helper for him not only for the loneliness but to fulfill the rest of the command to be fruitful and multiply.

All of these lead into God putting Adam to sleep, taking out a rib, forming Eve (who was still unnamed), and giving her to Adam as an example of the first marriage.

As a side note, Adam was given work in the garden as a steward already, but it was multiplied in punishment. This relates to Genesis 3 and the punishments that God gave for sinning. However, it is important to realize that Adam is already the head of Eve in the way marriage was created.


The purpose of marriage as an earthly institution

To understand the purpose of marriage, we need to examine what tends to drive relationship and marriage formation. Sexual attraction appears to be one of the primary drivers. Thus, since God created man, woman, and marriage we should assume that there is some intent of the Creator behind the phenomena of  sexual attraction.

What is sexually attractive to both sexes?

Generally speaking, attraction is different between both sexes.

  • Men are primarily attracted to physical beauty and femininity. Examples of physical beauty are a woman’s face and her figure like waist to hip ratio. Examples of femininity are long hair and female-only attire like dresses and skirts. These things are sexually attractive to men.
  • Women are primarily attracted to PSALM traits and masculinity. PSALM is an acronym for power/personality, status, athleticism, looks, and money. Generally speaking, these are embodied in a man such as a confident, handsome, ambitious, successful leader. Masculinity also embodies many traits that correlate with this such as strong, confident, independent, driven, tough skinned, competitive, and so on.

Yes, there are exceptions. Yes, these are generalizations. We’re not discussing them now.

These are the things that are primarily [sexually] attractive to both sexes. There is a reason for this.


Understanding how attraction plays into the roles and responsibilities of marriage

We, as humans, implicitly understand that attraction — by very definition of the word — is a driving force for marriage. Indeed, typically no one really gets married to someone that they don’t find attractive. If you were a Creator, it would make sense that the commands given to man for marriage would directly apply to the things that attract men and women to marriage. After all, these things are to be a preparation for the roles and responsibilities of marriage.

Even in cultures with arranged marriages such as Judaism, the two getting married were required to see each other and they had some influence in terms of veto power over the person they would get married. The families of the two parties ‘set them up’ on ‘arranged dates’ that they had to go on to get to know each other. There had to be agreement from all sides, including the two getting married. Very few cultures, if any, have forced marriages.

Now, relating this back to the Scriptures in Genesis 1 and 2 we can logically see how attraction plays into the various roles and responsibilities given to men and women in marriage. The commands of God are directly related to what we find attractive in the opposite sex.

  • Rule and subdue the earth
  • Be fruitful and multiply
  • Cultivate and keep the garden
  • Obey God

and

  • Men are primarily attracted to physical beauty and femininity. Examples of physical beauty are a woman’s face and her figure like waist to hip ratio. Examples of femininity are long hair and female-only attire like dresses and skirts. These things are [sexually] attractive to men.
  • Women are primarily attracted to PSALM traits and masculinity. PSALM is an acronym for power/personality, status, athleticism, looks, and money. Generally speaking, these are embodied in a man such as a confident, handsome, ambitious, successful leader. Masculinity also embodies many traits that correlate with this such as strong, confident, independent, driven, tough skinned, competitive, and so on.

Thus,

  • Men were commanded to rule and subdue the earth: hence, confident, ambitious, successful leaders are likely to do that. It’s no surprise that Scripture tells men that they are to be Protectors and Providers for their wives and families. A confident leader won’t back down from Protecting his wife when necessary or sacrificing himself as Jesus did for us such as in Numbers 30 and Ephesians 5. An ambitious, successful husband can easily provide for his family such as in Exodus 21 and 1 Timothy 5:8.
  • Woman was created as man’s helper and so that  he wouldn’t be alone. Eve was created to be a primary help for multiplying and filling the earth, and secondary help for ruling and subduing the earth and cultivating and keeping the garden. Beauty is a general proxy for healthiness and fertility because it signals less genetic errors and ability to bear children. Waist to hip ratios or curves garners a lot of attention by men because they are attractive, but they are also related to a woman’s health and her ability to bear healthy children.

As you can see, these are a good fit for the purpose of Creation and what we observe in real life.


New Testament Scriptures reinforce God’s Old Testament design of Creation

It should be clear that Adam had headship prior to the fall. God creates Adam first and then Eve as Adam’s helper. There’s other textual information in the link to corroborate that statement. However, this is also backed up by the stated commands in the New Testament. The NT Scriptures delineate the roles and responsibilities of the husbands and wives as thus (e.g. Ephesians 5, 1 Corinthians 7 and 11, Colossians 3, Titus 2, 1 Peter 3, 1 Tim 2 and 5, etc.)

  • Husband — Headship, love your wife for the purpose of sanctification, live with your wife in an understanding way, don’t become embittered at your wife, provide for your family, etc.
  • Wife — Submit to your husband, respect your husband, have affection for your husband, main focus should be on the home and childbirthing, etc

These directly align with not only the Creation commands and intent but also with what we observe. The husband’s headship directly aligns with ruling, obeying God, provision and protection of his wife and family. The wife’s submission directly aligns with being her husband’s helper and being a mother aligns with being fruitful and multiplying.

This does not seem to be a mistake unlike the failed egalitarian argument. Since God created woman’s attraction to operate on the principle of hypergamy, we can see how she would be attracted to and respect her the husband as he was appointed to lead, protect, and provide for his family.  If you try to depose of headship or any of the other parts of the design, you are deposing of God’s design intent which more likely leads to a failed marriage. A wife that doesn’t follow her husband and disrespects him and is rebellious is only one signature away from divorce.

All in all, there appears to be a consistent affirmation of the the roles and responsibilities of men and women at creation, in the OT, and in the NT that also demonstrate what the sexes tend to find attractive in each other.

This should not be a surprise. God’s design was planned from the beginning of creation and continues to persist through time.


Exploring the Scriptures on attraction and sex

Much of the modern Church has fallen ignorantly into the lie that godliness is attractive. This is the Christian ought fallacy which follows that ‘because godliness is a good thing it should be what is attractive.’ However, when we examine NT Scriptures, we find this to be false.

Paul tells the Corinthians in 2 Corinthians 6 to marry believers and not unbelievers. ‘What fellowship does light have with darkness and darkness with light?’ If godliness and good character were attractive, everyone would be attracted to Christians. That’s clearly false. Rather, it’s the case that any man exhibiting PSALM traits and masculinity will be attractive to women and they will not necessarily be believers or not. This is why Paul warns not to marry unbelievers because some were attractive but bad choices for marriage.

Similarly, Paul states in 1 Corinthians 7 the only reason given in the NT to marry: “it is better to marry than to burn.” In fact, it is even ideal or at least preferable [to him] that all men remain single as he so full attention can be focused toward the Lord. What are the things that cause us to burn for marriage? It is what sexually attracts us. This is the sex drive and beauty for men. This is the sex drive and strong, confident, handsome, ambitious, successful leaders for women. These are the things we look for in a mate, aside from important qualifiers such as godlines and character.

Why should women not usurp authority over man [in the Church and family] and why is she saved through childbearing in 1 Timothy 2? Because she is fulfilling the initial commands of God to be fruitful and multiply, and her offspring like Jesus will take dominion over the earth. Jesus added from the initial command of God to take dominion over the earth to also win the people of the earth through the gospel. Make disciples of all nations.

Another  problem, from what I’ve seen, is not solely that the modern Church parrots false narratives about what is attractive to both men and women. That is definitely harmful. However, there is the issue that makes it seem like godliness is mutually exclusive with the traits that attract the opposite sex. For example, beauty is somehow mutually exclusive with godliness, which 1 Pet 3 does not say at all. Another example is that a successful, ambitious man may be looked on as ‘too worldly’ because money is evil when it is the love of money that is evil in 1 Tim 6. This is a problem because these things are false. You can be beautiful and godly. You can be a confident, ambitious, and successful Christian leader.


Other Biblical pitfalls of downplaying attraction

Generally speaking, the modern Church loves to downplay the role of attraction in marriage. I believe that this is because it is based on a faulty understanding of why attraction is important.

For example, it’s clear from the Scriptures that beauty is what is attractive to men. However, beauty without godliness and character has disastrous consequences result for men. They’re carried away to worship idols (e.g. Solomon and harem). They get caught in adultery (e.g. David and Bathsheba). They get scared into lying (e.g. Abraham, Sarah, Abimelech, and Pharaoh). They get dragged down into the pit (e.g. the vast majority of Proverbs on beautiful but deceitful women). The beauty of women is never downplayed. In fact, in Song of Songs Solomon lauds the beauty of the Shulamite woman the entire book without mentioning her character once.

Those who claim beauty is shallow fall into the trap of false humility. God created beauty, and beauty is objective. Some examples are nature, facial symmetry, a woman’s waist to hip ratio, and strong, muscular men. Without a God as an anchor, there can be no objective Truth such as beauty. Those who downplay beauty don’t understand the role it plays within marriage.

Obviously cultivating beauty or cultivating strong, confident, handsome, ambitious, successful leaders should not be placed over godliness and character. However, they are not mutually exclusive. Beauty is only vanity when focused in the wrong direction. Beauty for attention, beauty for power, beauty for other men are not good. However, beauty for a husband in marriage is good. Similarly, the same is true of the sex drive.


Dominion is baked into the cake for men

All of the traits that women admire and respect in men which lead toward their sexual attraction for men are based in dominion in various aspects. Some have more universal appeal, and some have contextual appeal.

The PSALM traits generally have universal appeal.

  • Power
  • Status
  • Athleticism
  • Looks
  • Money

You can think of all of the top men in the world in these categories, and they almost always have what many men would consider a beautiful woman by their side.

The traits of masculinity also have universal appeal to women, so much so that they often try to be like men (feminism).

  • Independence
  • Dominance
  • Assertiveness
  • Strength
  • Aggression
  • Leadership
  • Competitiveness
  • Accountability
  • Courage
  • Stoicism
  • Charisma
  • Competence

Universal sexually attractive traits are also based on a scale and one can compensate substantially if they have crazy amounts of the others. One may not have the best looks, but if they are the Football team QB or they are the richest person in the area they still can garner attractive women, though caution is needed in such cases. Men with mainly money might invite more women who are into a lifestyle and gold diggers rather than one who actually wants to be her husband’s follower and helper.

Contextualized appeal are generally localized phenomena whereby men can be more attractive than others based on comparative positions.

  • A man may not be objective attractive in many PSALM traits, but if he’s the local leader or popular player of a D&D crew the women who participate in D&D may be more attracted to him than the other men.
  • Even if a man is not that attractive in many different areas, he may be able to generate some attraction if he’s in a leadership, mentor, or other type of position of prestige. The typical doctor and nurse, lawyer and secretary, and many other positions like these can imbue pseudo-respect that turns into real sexual attraction.

Additionally, as we covered in the prior post Institutional authority and Influential authority and how they interact with Genuine/Godly and Gentile authority, the most successful form of sexual attraction develops from influential authority rather than institutional authority.

It can be summarized in all of these traits listed — both universal and contextual — that they are all fall under the category of dominion. Some are more directly related to dominion than others such as power, but they all represent some form of mastery over various aspects of life that signal a man has capacity to operate effectively as the head of the marriage in leadership, protection, and provision — PSALMs, masculinity, and contextual areas. However, these traits must also be tempered with the fruit of the Spirit lest such men become dark triads or bad boys. 

In short, women are attracted to dominion and its various forms. Dominion also crosses over from sexual attraction to sexual arousal in the right context.

Finally, if this does not make sense to any Christian, I have another compelling analogy. To use the headship analogy, Christ’s dominion over sin and death is what attracts the Church to Himself. Christ conquering sin and death and providing us a way to reconcile with God is the greatest feat of dominion of all time, and one that draws all men to Himself provided we have the humility to respect His willing sacrifice that while we were yet sinners He died for us.


Conclusion

Creation

In summary, the Scriptures describe that God directs commands to man and woman when He made them and married them. These are:

  • Rule and subdue the earth
  • Be fruitful and multiply
  • Cultivate and keep the garden
  • Obey God

If we look at them from an observational perspective, we see that these commands also fairly accurately describe what each sex finds attractive in the opposite sex.

and

  • Men are primarily attracted to physical beauty and femininity. Examples of physical beauty are a woman’s face and her figure like waist to hip ratio. Examples of femininity are long hair and female-only attire like dresses and skirts. These things are [sexually] attractive to men.
  • Women are primarily attracted to PSALM traits and masculinity. PSALM is an acronym for power/personality, status, athleticism, looks, and money. Generally speaking, these are embodied in a man such as a confident, handsome, ambitious, successful leader. Masculinity also embodies many traits that correlate with this such as strong, confident, independent, driven, tough skinned, competitive, and so on.

Thus,

  • Men were commanded to rule and subdue the earth: hence, confident, ambitious, successful leaders are likely to do that. It’s no surprise that Scripture tells men that they are to be Protectors and Providers for their wives and families. A confident leader won’t back down from Protecting his wife when necessary or sacrificing himself as Jesus did for us such as in Numbers 30 and Ephesians 5. An ambitious, successful husband can easily provide for his family such as in Exodus 21 and 1 Timothy 5:8.
  • Woman was created as man’s helper and so that  he wouldn’t be alone. Eve was created to be a primary help for multiplying and filling the earth, and secondary help for ruling and subduing the earth and cultivating and keeping the garden. Beauty is a general proxy for healthiness and fertility because it signals less genetic errors and ability to bear children. Waist to hip ratios or curves garners a lot of attention by men because they are attractive, but they are also related to a woman’s health and her ability to bear healthy children.

There are multiple passages of Scripture both from the Old Testament and New Testament that affirm continually affirm these characteristics.

  • Husband — Headship, love your wife for the purpose of sanctification, live with your wife in an understanding way, don’t become embittered at your wife, provide for your family, etc.
  • Wife — Submit to your husband, respect your husband, have affection for your husband, main focus should be on the home and childbirthing, etc

In other words for men: rule your family well, obey God, cultivate and keep your family, and so on. For women: help your husband rule well, obey God, and help him be fruitful and multiply.

To use the headship analogy, Christ’s dominion over sin and death is what attracts the Church to Himself. Christ conquering sin and death and providing us a way to reconcile with God is the greatest feat of dominion of all time, and one that draws all men to Himself provided we have the humility to respect His willing sacrifice that while we were yet sinners He died for us.

These marital roles and responsibilities directly align with not only the Creation commands and intent but also with what we observe. The husband’s headship directly aligns with ruling, obeying God, provision and protection of his wife and family. In short, women are attracted to dominion both in sexual attraction and sexual arousal. The wife’s submission directly aligns with being her husband’s helper and being a mother aligns with being fruitful and multiplying.

We do both singles and married a disservice by downplaying the role attraction plays in marriage. If we don’t show them why, from the Scriptures, God created these traits to be important and attractive to the opposite sex we risk alienating them and/or giving them cognitive dissonance. Exceptions are exceptions. Hanging onto exceptions when you want to be married give you a low probability of success. Sure, some men marry obese women. Most men don’t. Sure, some women marry men the stereotype of a man in his parent’s basement playing video games all the time. Most women don’t.

“Oh? You want a beautiful wife? That’s shallow and superficial.” However, we implicitly understand that beauty is objective, at least in part. That creates strong cognitive dissonance in Christian men: “Oh, I shouldn’t want beauty? Then why do I desire a beautiful wife? Is beauty a bad thing? Why do I want a beautiful wife if beauty is superficial?” Sadly, this is too often the case.

That which God creates is beautiful. He created us, and we were very good. He created attraction and our sex drives. He created marriage. He command us to take dominion and be fruitful and multiply. The loving gaze of a husband on his beautiful bride. The respect of a wife toward her strong, confident husband. Our righteousness is our beautiful clothing to Jesus. The beauty of a large family.

All of these things come together to form a coherent whole that exemplifies the nature of the beauty of marriage and the plan that God created for us to accomplish.

Most power you can exert is by Yes and No.

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Institutional authority and Influential authority and how they interact with Genuine/Godly and Gentile authority

These two concepts are distinctly different from Genuine/Godly and Gentile Authority. I’ve talked about them a little before, but I wanted to make a post specifically on how they work. I think this brings a lot of light to much of the problems that happen in relationships and marriage.

  • Institutional authority is basically what it says. The Bible distinguishes several Institutional authorities in our lives. For instance, the earthly authorities we are to obey as Christians.

1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14 or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right.

God also sets up the hierarchical structures in the Church (male led) and family (husband led).

  • Influential authority is more of an implied authority based on certain circumstances.

For example, go to a doctor or hospital if we’re sick because the doctors have been educated to help us treat the illnesses. We go to various teachers or tutors to help us with our school work if we need help. We can call an electrician, plumber, auto mechanic, and many others if we have problems that we don’t know that can be solved. We follow the advice of subject matter experts (SMEs) all the time when we don’t know the answers.

Therefore, Influential authority is generally based on a trust in the qualities such as education, expertise, competence, and respect for that person based on that particular area in what they’re good in.

Sexual attractiveness is also to some degree an influential authority – we’re more likely to trust someone who is physical attractive — male or female — than we are to trust someone less attraction. However, the respect gained from a potential source of influential authority can also improve attractiveness, as we often see with the teacher-student, doctor-nurse, lawyer-secretary type relationships.

In summary, Institutional authority is an overt structure while Influential authority is typically a covert structure. The latter can have visible signs, but it’s unlikely to be discerned until the person who is following or deferring to that person over others happens.


Interactions of authority

Jesus is actually an example of both Institutional and Influential authority

  • Institutional – Jesus comes from the Father and is representation of God with us. However, some people such as the disciples and other followers believed this while many of the religious leaders of the day such as the Pharisees and Sadducees did not.
  • Influential – Jesus uses this method to call His disciples with the “Come follow me” phrase spread throughout the gospel. He did not claim to be God and tell them to follow Him, but instead was teaching others and invited them to come with Him on the journey.

Interestingly, this is actually a good pattern for relationships as Jesus:Church is the analogy for the husband:wife as we’ve discussed before.

Although the Bible preaches Institutional authority of the Church and family, this is generally not the way you would assert to lead the Church or family. The better way is to often build the influence you have with the particular groups through faithful service a la 1 Timothy 3 qualities in the Church or display of PSALM, masculinity, and leadership traits for men. Typically such men are promoted internally in the Church or women are more likely to want to follow a man with such qualities.

Genuine and Gentile authority can be used both ways within each of these.

  • Gentile + Institutional authority where you often have dictator figures who oppress others and use the authority to benefit themselves
  • Genuine + Institutional authority where you typically have more beloved secular leaders who are taking the needs of the people they lead as great concerns
  • Gentile + Influential authority where you have your attractive bad boys that tend to break womens’ hearts once the women figure out the man is not going to give them what they want such as marriage, or they eventually figure out that he’s not good for them because they are treated poorly long enough
  • Genuine + Influential authority where you have a solid godly relationship that both parties can appreciate.

You would think these are the only 4 options, but there are combinations of all 3 as well.

  • Gentile + Institutional + Influential authority – This is where you have a dictator figure who is out to benefit himself, but he has solid influential authority through competence and charisma where he can spin it into also supposedly being good for the people too.
  • Genuine + Institutional + Influential authority – This is the structure the Bible states that is for Christian families. The best marriages I know are built on this.

In my opinion, these structure also help to explain some of Jack’s confusion on the topic between the headship + tingly-respect and peaceful unity models.

  • Genuine + Institutional + Influential results is the combination of godly (genuine) + headship (institutional) + tingly respect (influential).
  • Genuine + Influential authority results in the peaceful unity model – godly (genuine) + tingly respect (influential) – where there can be godliness and success absent the Institutional nature of overt headship. However, this model only works as long as there is typically both godliness and influential authority. A wife who eschews Christianity is more prone to leave as is a woman who starts to become contentious if the husband is not implicitly leading well though he not be the overt leader. In other words, it works until it doesn’t.
  • The additional layer of the Institutional nature of headship is not only godly, but it also ensures that husbands ideally have Christian and Church backup in case of wifely rebellion. Likewise, the confidence to use the authority in a godly manner if a wife is rebellious.

This should now make most things clear.


In conclusion

The ideal nature of Biblical marriage should result in a marriage based on Genuine (godly) + Institutional (headship) + Influential (tingly-respect) authority.

This distinguishes between why the 3 part authority is important. The 2 part ones can be potentially successful and godly in some manner, but they are missing the extra layer of sanctification and reaffirmation that tends to make the marriages much more stronger and resistant against temptation.

Additionally, although Godliness and Institutional natures are part of marriage, they are not the way Jesus initiates the relationship with His disciples and the Church. He does this through Influential authority as opposed to the others. Men would best focus on doing that if they want a woman to be in a relationship with them.

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Headship is still authority in marriage Part 2 addendum

It’s been stated, not only by DR, but others from what I’ve seen that nowhere is headship equated with authority. As we have established in the on Headship is authority in marriage and wifely submission is obedience, both Jesus in John 13-15 and Peter in 1 Peter 3 show that there is a hierarchy within marriage through Paul’s direct analogies.

However, we also have evidence that Paul regards head as authority via 1 Corinthians 11.

1 Corinthians 11:1 Be imitators of me, just as I also am of Christ.

2 Now I praise you because you remember me in everything and hold firmly to the traditions, just as I delivered them to you. 3 But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.

4 Every man who has something on his head while praying or prophesying disgraces his head. 5 But every woman who has her head uncovered while praying or prophesying disgraces her head, for she is one and the same as the woman whose head is shaved. 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, let her also have her hair cut off; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, let her cover her head.

7 For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. 8 For man does not originate from woman, but woman from man; 9 for indeed man was not created for the woman’s sake, but woman for the man’s sake.

10 Therefore the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.

11 However, in the Lord, neither is woman independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12 For as the woman originates from the man, so also the man has his birth through the woman; and all things originate from God.

13 Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him, 15 but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? For her hair is given to her for a covering. 16 But if one is inclined to be contentious, we have no other practice, nor have the churches of God.

Paul makes several different arguments here which we will summarize in several points.

  1. First, Paul declares that everything he is saying from here on out is being an imitator of himself and he is imitating Christ. This establishes what he is saying as direct teaching from God on the matter.
  2. Second, he specifically declares headship as God > Christ > man > woman. We’ve already seen in the gospels where Jesus specifically says he only does what the Father does and submits to the Father’s authority. Hence, we can understand by association that this headship here is authoritative in nature. Likewise, Jesus and Paul both indicate that Christ as the head of the Church is authoritative via Teacher and Lord.
  3. Third, we have several different arguments presented after the headship statements.
  • Argument from Creation v7-9 – man is in the image and glory of God but woman is the glory of man, starting from head coverings argument.
  • Argument of authority v10 – woman ought to have a symbol of authority** on her head meaning that it is her duty to be under authority. The word for ought (opheileo) is also used in 1 Corinthians 7 for each spouse owing sex to the other or it being their duty to each other. “Because of the angels” is cryptic, but usually interpreted as the angels are witnesses. The early Church believed that angels were watching over the Churches (e.g. Jesus writes in Revelation 2-3 to the angels at the 7 Churches – “To the angel of the church in Ephesus write:”) and the angels appearances to the apostles like Peter in prison, Paul, and many other believers. In other words, women ought to have an outward symbol of authority on her head as this representation of Created and inward truth of submission to authority, which is witnessed and confirmed by the angels.
  • Symbiosis hierarchy of man and woman v11-12 – which is the Genuine/Godly hierarchy that Jesus talks about rather than the Gentile one. No independence of man and woman from each other.
  • Argument from nature v13-16 – dishonor for long hair and glory of a woman’s long hair

** – The Greek actually only says: “Therefore the woman ought to have authority (exousia) on her head, because of the angels.” Most translations use symbol of authority because Paul is discussing head coverings before that, so it likely relates to the outward symbol of authority which is a head covering. However, this more readily emphasizes to the English reader the understanding that the head covering is an outward symbol of authority which is relating to a more fundamental truth of headship authority.

Therefore, we have Paul directly referring that being the head means there is authority (exousia) between men and women in the Church — Creation, (symbol of) authority, nature.

This is directly echoed and confirmed in 1 Corinthians 14 where women are to keep silent in Churches and ask their husbands at home to learn, and 1 Timothy 2 where women are not to teach or have authority over men.

This also dispels the notion that Jesus, Paul, Peter, and the other disciples were teaching them how to act within the confines of their particular culture, and that a hierarchy structure is not necessarily what we should do today. The argument for headship by way of head coverings is from Creation and nature pre-fall, which is when God would have created perfectly before any sin warped Genuine/Godly authority into Genuine authority. In other words, the structure itself is correct, but we need to make sure to use the authority from the structure in a godly manner. 

In conclusion, we have ample confirmation that not only does Jesus and Peter say that there is authority in marriage directly, but Paul shows that there is authority within headship itself and the Church and by extension marriage both indirectly in this passage and directly in 1 Corinthians 14 where the husband is established as the teacher of the wife. The arguments are from Creation, which means they are universal as opposed to cultural.

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Headship is still authority in marriage and wifely submission is obedience Part 2

And we’re back from arguments on headship, authority, submission, and obedience from Jack’s Invisible Magic Authority. Yay.

We’ve gone over this many times on this blog, though this is probably the most recent on Gentile vs Genuine authority. For those of you who have been around since the beginning circa 2014 or 2015, I did not initially believe that headship meant authority, but as I studied the Scriptures more I came to believe it did.

Derek makes an argument about grammar:

There is never going to be any degree of understanding of the so-called “Peaceful Unity Model” without changes to the metaphysical assumptions of this audience. Perhaps one day the inherent contradictions in the view will make this clear to some, but perhaps not.

Regardless, you didn’t even both to address the points I made in the post you were replying to. You simply repeated that this was wrong…

“Never in the Bible is a Christian wife told to submit to her husband or a Christian husband told to rule over his wife. No such imperatives exist. Deti’s Patriarchy isn’t found in the Greek Bible.”

I’m not sure which translation Derek is using, but it’s quite clear.

…without bringing anything new to the table. But I had already addressed these claims.

* Uses the word “submit / submissive”.
** Uses the word “obey / obedient”.

Titus 2:5,9 says:

“…to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject [Middle Voice] to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God. [..] Teach slaves to be subject [Passive Voice] to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them…”

Colossians 3:18,20 says:

“Wives, submit yourselves [Passive Voice] to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. [..] Children, obey [Active Voice; Imperative Mood] your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord.”

Ephesians 5 says:

“…submitting [participle; Middle Voice] yourselves to each another out of respect for Christ; Wives [elided verb] to your husbands as to Christ… [..] Husbands love [Verb; Active Voice; Imperative Mood] your wives…”

1 Peter 3 uses the same formula.

In my previous link, there is a pretty clear explanation for this, but let’s expand on that.

If one does not understand what voice means this explanation goes over it well.

In other words,

  • Children are told to obey (active) because they are under the authority of their parents and generally have inadequate moral agency to understand why they obey.
  • Slaves are in the passive because they are under the Gentile authority of their masters and they know right from wrong. The key being that Christians should go above and beyond to show Jesus in our lives even if they are under potential oppressive Gentile authority.
  • Wives are in both middle and passive because while they are under the Genuine/Godly authority of their husbands, but they have moral agency and Holy Spirit to understand to know what is right and wrong and submit themselves to their husbands lead. This is mostly distinguished from slaves (mostly middle as opposed to passive) showing how those under Genuine Authority should act to show how the headship authority-submission is different from Gentile authority.

In the previous post I mentioned how authority was Created by God to be from the beginning. Genuine/Godly authority that Jesus has over the disciples who become the Church versus distinguishing this from the Gentile authority that the world uses. The most relevant passage to start with:

However, what may clear up a potential disconnect is that Jesus makes it clear that authority is present, but it is not “Gentile” authority but “genuine” authority.

Matthew 20:25-28 (ESV)
25 But Jesus called them to him and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them. 26 It shall not be so among you. But whoever would be great among you must be your servant, 27 and whoever would be first among you must be your slave, 28 even as the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”

and

John 13:12-17 (ESV)
12 When he had finished washing their feet, he put on his clothes and returned to his place. “Do you understand what I have done for you?” he asked them. 13 “You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and rightly so, for that is what I am. 14 Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet. 15 I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you. 16 Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him. 17 Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them.

Jesus makes it clear that His authority is to be used to love and serve the disciples and by extension the Church, which makes this a clear analogy for husbands and wives with Christ : Church :: Husbands : Wives.

Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

As we can see, there is a clear parallel not just in the Christ being head of the Church and husbands and wives. Most people see right away. However, if we look at a bit closer at the underlined bolded, we also see a reference to Jesus’ authority as Lord and Teacher over the disciples/Church.

To emphasize further, I’ve never seen the feminists/egalitarians/DR’s argument address the clear meaning of genuine authority and Gentile authority in regard to Christ and the Church as Jesus in John 13-15 because they don’t have an answer for it.

After that, Jesus exhorts the disciples/Church to use authority in the Genuine/Godly way as opposed to the Gentile way.

DR continues:

DS: “Submit implies that the wife has moral agency to understand the right thing to do and to do it, which as you noted for Christian wives is to follow their husband’s lead and respect him as the Church does with Christ.”

DS: “The overarching theme through the Bible is that God wants us as humans to use our free will to submit to him to bring Him Glory. So too through God and Jesus, Jesus and the Church, Husbands and wives, and others. They are all a reflection of His Glory. This means though the word submit is used, it all ends up in obedience if we choose to do the right thing.”

DR: …in that submission is not active, but it is still interpreted within the English-speakers cultural and linguistic framework, because at the very end, he still concludes that it really functions practically as an implied imperative after all, which isn’t an explanation at all.

DR is wrong here because we have clear parallels to Jesus and the Church to understand what is meant by a wife’s submission which is that to properly submit leads to obedience.

  • John 13:34 I am giving you a new commandment (as an extension of Jesus’ authority as Teacher and Lord), that you love one another; just as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all people will know that you are My disciples: if you have love for one another.”
  • John 14:15 “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments… 21 The one who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and the one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will reveal Myself to him.
  • Jesus reiterates these points in John 15 on the Vine and the Branches and subsequent commands.

Thus, Jesus reaffirms His commands to us authoritatively as Teacher and Lord to submit and be obedient to Him. We have a choice to submit or not — If you love Me — to do what is right or wrong — obey His commandments or not. Hence, why the majority of the verses for wives containing middle voice are the subject acting on itself. God gains Glory from our voluntary submission which is results in obedience to Him.

You can think of this as salvation and works. We don’t do good works because it earns us salvation, but because we are saved we are transformed by the Holy Spirit and want to do good works. Salvation is an imperative to do good works because they are prepared for us to do and they are excellent and profitable for everyone. But in the same measure, they also show that we have a genuine faith.

  • Ephesians 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
  • Titus 3:4 But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, 5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, 6 whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life. 8 This is a trustworthy saying. And I want you to stress these things, so that those who have trusted in God may be careful to devote themselves to doing what is good. These things are excellent and profitable for everyone.
  • Philippians 2:12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,
  • James 2:18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder. 20 You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless?

Many newer Christians may get the sense that we need faith with works for salvation from the last two passages, but they are not contradictory or opposed but synergistic. Faith leads to good works, and good works are proof of genuine faith. It’s my choice to submit God or not, but there is still the moral obligation to obey because we know that submitting to Jesus is the right thing to do and places us rightly under the authority covering of God.

  • As genuine faith leads to good works, so too submission leads to obedience
  • Good works are proof of our salvation for those with genuine faith, just as our obedience to Jesus is proof that we love Him.

If that is not enough evidence, 1 Peter 3 would not also have this clear understanding of the fact that proper submission means obedience.

1 Peter 3:Wives, in the same way submit yourselves to your own husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, 2 when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. 3 Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes. 4 Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight. 5 For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to adorn themselves. They submitted themselves to their own husbands, 6 like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her lord. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear.

If verbs and tenses aren’t your thing, this part of the passage explains it effectively. Wifely submission is an implied imperative to obey if you want to do what is right.

Yes, the same word — hypakuou — used for Sarah obeying Abraham is the same word used in Ephesians 6 and Colossians 3 for children obeying their parents!

We should also take notice of the parallels between Jesus in John 13-15, Ephesians 5, and this passage of 1 Peter 3.

  • Jesus Himself affirms that He is Teacher and Lord to the disciples and Church as does 1 Peter 3 through establishing that righteous wives regard their husbands as their lord — even to an unbelieving husband much less a believer.
  • Likewise, Jesus shows us that His Teaching the Church/disciples is to rightly use the authority that is given to those in the Church and families to rightly love and serve others. This is echoed in Ephesians 5 with the commands to the husbands to love and sanctify their wives.
  • Finally, we have Jesus telling Christian that “if we love him” that “we will keep/obey His commands.” In other words, we have a choice to submit — “if we love him” — but choosing to obey is loving him. Functionally, submission to Jesus’ commands is obedience.

While this is sufficiently clear evidence, other evidence such as 1 Corinthians 11 where God is the head of Christ who is the head of man who is the head of woman makes a similar case. This also denotes a clear hierarchical structure, as Jesus spoke clearly all throughout the gospels that He was in submission and therefore obedience to the Father. Likewise, the Church and Christians to Jesus.


To conclude, contrary to DR’s arguments:

  • Headship is still Genuine/Godly authority in marriage, but that authority is distinguished from Gentile authority in that Genuine authority should be used to love, serve, and sanctify your wife and children.
  • Functionally a wife’s submission to her husband’s authority is obedience. It is distinguished from children in that she has full moral agency to understand what she is doing is right (submission becomes obedience, respect, etc.) or wrong (rebellion, disrespect, etc.).
  • Finally, overly delving into one specific verse and grammatical constructs irrespective of the rest of the Scripture not only undermines husbands but also Christ since that is the foundation of the analogy.
  • Addendum of Part 2 analyzing 1 Corinthians 11 and 14, and 1 Timothy 2 establishing headship as authority, and women/wives underneath it within the Church and marriage. This passage via the authority of headship indirectly through head coverings also points to the fact that this is not something that is merely cultural. Because the argument is from Creation and nature when God created it perfectly, this is a universal hierarchy structure in Church and marriage. But it must be used rightly as Genuine/Godly authority rather than Gentile.

This illustrates the problematic nature of honing in on grammar while forgetting the full bigger picture of the model that Jesus is teaching about genuine/godly authority and Christ and the Church. Even when genuine Christians can mistakenly lost in the weeds of Ephesians “mutual submission” and grammar tenses, it should be clear they cannot refute the clear examples given to us by Jesus in John and 1 Peter 3.

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You should rarely read secular manosphere blogs if at all

I was sorting through my e-mail the other day, and I stumbled across the mail of almost decade old blog posts from Christian and secular manosphere writers.

That brought back another memory which I wrote that You should rarely read women’s blogs if at all.

For men, obviously. This is similar to the line of banning female commenters.

  1. As a man you should rarely read womens’ blogs, if at all.
  2. If you do read any, you should almost never comment.

What I see tend to see is that men who need to grow in masculinity read womens’ blogs is that they get very complacent with their own growth. In addition, what usually ends up happening is that any discourse usually devolves into the blame game or patting on the back which wastes valuable time that could be spent elsewhere.

On the other hand, some men get set off track and end up holding said women as ‘paragons of virtue’ when they are simply women who have the nature of women and make mistakes too. Married men often become discontented in their own marriage at this, and it sets up unrealistic expectations for single men looking to be married.

Proverbs 27:17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.

Both Hebrew words used for man and friend refer to males. The analogy is thus like sharpens like. Iron sharpens iron. Men sharpen men.

If you want to grow as a man, you need to learn from men. Womens’ blogs can give insight into how they react to different things and their concerns, but that does not give an accurate solution. Men need to learn from men about how to lead women. That’s why a quality of leadership in the Church is men who rule their households well.

Prior to discerning that which seems to be 2016 given that post, I came to the same conclusion on secular manosphere blogs which is why I stopped reading them sometime circa 2015. I realized that I had never made that into a post, so better late than never.

Having worked with various men in person, this blog, and the RP Christians reddit and discord, it’s very easy for men to get sucked into secular philosophies and trying to blend them with Christianity or interpret Christianity through the lens of The Red Pill instead of everything through the lens of Scripture. I am also guilty of some that on some of the early posts on this blog.

The other issue commonly seen is that once men have the blinders taken off, it’s easy to get sucked into either bitterness, despair, or other negative emotions instead of Christ and His purpose for our lives.

This is also why I’ve been anti-game from the beginning as the many of the game specific tactics only have potential success on the population that they were developed on which is lowering the inhibitions of already promiscuous women. Attempting similar tactics on serious Christian women would in all likelihood get her to reject you from dates just like trying to go dutch would. That being said, some behavior is universal to women in which certain frameworks provide useful ideas to understand the sin nature or rebelliousness of women whether secular or Christian.

The probable better approach from a Christian point of view is an anti-chivalry stance which helps to bust down many of the underlying feminist and even Red Pill assumptions that many men can take on from family, friends, society, and even the secular manosphere. One such example is the re-interpretation of the Ephesians passage by modern churchians versus what it actually means.

However, it is also true that there are limited amounts of actual good Christian dating and relationship advice out there given how much of the Church has fallen to churchianity such as the godliness is sexy mantra. I think it is sufficiently clear, however, that the Bible provides good indicators for what men and women tend to find sexually attractive.

It also stands to reason then to understand the Biblical framework for everything and have solid Christian men around you to help sharpen the understanding on how to deal with relationships and marriage. This is an obvious point perhaps, but it is still easy to be led astray by the world.

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Higher partner count for women leads to more cheating too

It’s a duh moment, but at least we have some data on it now. For the statistics in regard to sexual partners and divorce see Review of vetting, virgins and new info on virginity pledges

There’s a review of GSS Norc’s General Social Survey here.

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Odds ratio is fairly clear cut in this case. A virgin woman (1 partner is the husband) vs one with 2-4 partners is 6x more likely to cheat. 5-10 partners compared to 1 is 9.5x more likely to cheat. Then 14x and 16x more likely cheat with 11-20 and > 20 partners respectively.

The clear caveats with surveys being that women tend to lie more about their sexual pasts, so in all likelihood the numbers could actually be worse than this.

In comparison, here are the divorce statistics from a chart from my previous post.

15% chance of divorce with zero pre-marital sexual partners which drastically increases much like going from 1 to 2-4 partners then slowly starts to level off. I suspect if you plot these both in terms of odds ratios they will return similar curves.

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Difference between men and women with superheroes

Ironically, not related to Jack’s recent post, but it stimulated a reminder about an interesting thought on social media the other day. To paraphrase:

  • When boys or men learn about a superhero or character, they will research all about that character and then when they play they will try to play within the context of that character. For instance, their play would center around how that character would act in certain situations.
  • When girls or women learn about a superhero or character, they typically try to play with that character in their likeness. This could explain why the Wonder Woman movie was so popular – women were imagining themselves fighting against the “Patriarchy” and tearing down the walls because they had the power that Wonder Woman did.

In other words, this explains why the vast majority of women created media seeks to strip down cartoons, comics, movies, and other characters and re-make them in the likeness of woman. You see this currently with many of the female-oriented superhero films, Disney remakes, female driven movies and comics, and others.

This seems to be potentially based on a few factors.

  • Men tend to be better with compartmentalization and abstract thinking. In other words, they are able to conceptualize totally different characters and distinguish them better from their sense of self.
  • Women tend to be more solipsistic in nature, believing that everything is typically related to them. Additionally, their feelings can generally not be isolated well from their sense of situation and self to where feelings often become a dominating factor in their own version of truth.

Indeed, this may also be why women tend to handle leadership positions less well than men in general. The focus of women is typically onto the self and the power and less about the responsibility. Not that there is any shortage of men doing that, but it tends to be more problematic with women especially with petty infighting and power struggles. It’s more personal.

If we carry this back to the Bible, narcissism in men often culminates in the desire to want to be god, but in many cases of narcissism/feminism in women they want to be men or god. Rarely do men except in extremely small number of transgender cases do men want to be a woman or have feminine-like qualities. It’s typically the female envy or covetousness for man, headship/leadership, or masculinity. Women want to re-make man or god into their own likeness.

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Delusions of blue and purple and removing the haze

Want to quick comment on Jacks’ post on blue and purple structures.

What is the Purple System?

First of all, the classic definition of the Purple Pill is trying to apply Red Pill insights and praxeology to solve Blue Pill problems. It is still a Blue hierarchy, but one in which the man is Red Pill informed and usually very confused. In some cases, the Purple Pill is a transition stage, AKA Purple Haze, in which a man wakes up to Red Pill reality, but is still living in a Blue Pill structure / system. It takes some time to realize that Blue Pill problems can never be solved without completely abandoning the Blue Pill system. Men usually don’t complete the transition unless there is suffering involved, and the more suffering there is, the faster the transition is. Purple Haze is rather rare anymore, since the Red Pill went mainstream.

Generally, the only way purple and blue structures can exist effectively without devolving into destructive structures (e.g. woman nagging, contentious, etc.) is if something is propping up the system.

One can be totally delusional about how attraction works and still be in a godly successful marriage. However, the only way this generally occurs for men is if they are naturally attractive and/or naturally good with women. These men can believe in “true love” because they have never really experienced the opposite and it’s easy for them to get women.

In other words, their naturally attractiveness or charisma is propping up their delusion that women will love them unconditionally for who they are.

It is also notable that some to many pastors tend to fall into this category. The “godliness is sexy” mantra is repeated by pastors all the time, and they believe it’s true because it “worked” for them. They were pursuing God’s kingdom and women dropped into their lap, and they were generally able to marry a fairly to very attractive woman who wanted to be with him,

Of course, what they don’t see is that their position was propping up their success with woman and not their godliness. The power and status of being a Church leader is what was attracting women to them. I’m not saying this is the only thing as there are also pastors who are very charismatic, excellent social skills, humor, and other things women find attractive. However, they are deluded into thinking that their success with women is because of their potential godliness.

The Janitor example I always bring up is the case in point. Women are attracted to the Church leader, pastor, worship leader, and not the janitor, greeters, or parking lot coordinators.

Circling back, the only way these men wake up to the delusion is if their bubble is popped either by their own experience or see other’s experiences and learn from them. If they suddenly get sick and have to step down as a pastor and their wife leaves them. Or they see so many counseling cases from other men that that they can’t keep living in the delusion that godliness is attractive when their advice fails time and time again.

Society had propped up men for the longest time — greater status, better jobs, masculine men accepted, etc. — through the 1970s to maybe 1980s. However, once the system to prop up men disintegrates then you have a thorough falling out where less and less men are caught in the delusions of blue and purple.

This is why the younger generations growing up now like GenZ and others easily call out SIMPing, White Knighting, and other behaviors that are net negatives on getting women or being successful in relationships and marriages. There’s nothing anymore to prop up the delusions.

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