Wives will never win their husbands with words

A brief interlude with more commentary for wives and husbands (and girlfriends and boyfriends as that seems to apply now). I want to get this out on paper because I see this playing out in my parents’ marriage as well as in other marriages.

Introduction

The “trick” is to actually follow God’s commands. What a surprise. But the answers are not always clear in the English, so let’s take a look at a scenario.

Say God has revealed to a wife that she is unhappy in a relationship because she is overbearing and dominant (feminism, churchianity, society, etc.). The wife wants it change so that her husband is leading, but she is having difficulty because anytime she wants him to lead it is met with disdain, snark, and disagreeable behavior from her husband.

What can a wife do?

The answer is right there in the Scriptures:

1 Peter 3 (NASB)

1 In the same way, you wives, be submissive (hupotassō) to your own husbands so that even if any of them are disobedient to the word (logos), they may be won without a word (logos) by the behavior of their wives, 2 as they observe your chaste (hagnos) and [a]respectful (phobos) behavior. 3 Your adornment (kosmos) must not be merely external—braiding the hair, and wearing gold jewelry, or putting on dresses; 4 but let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the imperishable quality of a gentle (praus) and quiet (hēsuchios) spirit, which is precious in the sight of God. 5 For in this way in former times the holy women also, who hoped in God, used to adorn themselves, being submissive (hupotassō) to their own husbands; 6 just as Sarah obeyed (hupakouō) Abraham, calling him lord, and you have become her children if you do what is right [or good] (agathopoieō) [b]without being frightened by any fear (phobeō).

There’s a whole measure of concepts to unpack in these 6 verses.

Part 1 — Word (Logos)

1 In the same way, you wives, be submissive (hupotassō) to your own husbands so that even if any of them are disobedient to the word (logos), they may be won without a word (logos) by the behavior of their wives,

Logos is used to refer to Jesus in John 1 (In the beginning was the Word), and it is also used in the Scriptures to refer to the Scriptures themselves. The Bible is the Logos Word of God.

G3056 — λόγος — logos — log’-os

From G3004; something said (including the thought); by implication a topic (subject of discourse), also reasoning (the mental faculty) or motive; by extension a computation; specifically (with the article in John) the Divine Expression (that is, Christ): – account, cause, communication, X concerning, doctrine, fame, X have to do, intent, matter, mouth, preaching, question, reason, + reckon, remove, say (-ing), shew, X speaker, speech, talk, thing, + none of these things move me, tidings, treatise, utterance, word, work.

What is really interesting is that through the Scriptures here God is saying that unbelieving husbands should not be lectured to with the Scriptures. This is because lecturing a man to do the right thing is nagging. And nagging never, ever, ever, ever works to change a man.

Likewise, the Scriptures are true, but do you beat non-Christians over the head with a Bible and expect them to believe? I’ve never ever seen that work. And you probably haven’t either.

It’s not particularly surprising that the Scriptures nor speech are to not used to evangelize. After all, what is Christianity about? It’s all about action. Faith in action. We are not to be hearers but doers of the Word (James 1:22).

The Scriptures are food for the Christian. They are not food for those who still walk in the darkness, but food for those in the light. God may use the Scriptures if non-Christians are agreeable to reading them, but using them to brow beat or manipulate those who are resistant never works.

Part 2 – Submission (hupotassō)

1 In the same way, you wives, be submissive (hupotassō) to your own husbands so that even if any of them are disobedient to the word (logos), they may be won without a word (logos) by the behavior of their wives,

[…]

5 For in this way in former times the holy women also, who hoped in God, used to adorn themselves, being submissive (hupotassō) to their own husbands; 6 just as Sarah obeyed (hupakouō) Abraham, calling him lord, and you have become her children if you do what is right [or good] (agathopoieō) [b]without being frightened by any fear (phobeō).

Those of you familiar with Ephesians 5 will also be familiar with hupotasso in 1 Peter 3.

G5293 — ὑποτάσσω — hupotassō — hoop-ot-as’-so

From G5259 and G5021; to subordinate; reflexively to obey: – be under obedience (obedient), put under, subdue unto, (be, make) subject (to, unto), be (put) in subjection (to, under), submit self unto.

This word is also used in reference to Christians’ submission to God, and Christians’ submission to earth authorities.

Husbands are called to headship and the wives are called to submission in the Scriptures. Just as there is a hierarchical structure in God’s nature (Father > Jesus > Holy Spirit) as well as between Christ > Church, so too God has laid down a hierarchical structure here on earth between the sexes.

When the wife is making the decisions and having her husband qualify to her whims she is going to be leading the relationship. Because she feels like she is leading the relationship, she is going to be stressed because the responsibilities of the marriage will fall directly onto her instead of her husband. This one of the reasons why wives will become unhappy, even though they desire power in the relationship.

Part 3 — chaste (hagnos)

2 as they observe your chaste (hagnos) and [a]respectful (phobos) behavior.

Hagnos is not a word that is used often in the Scriptures.

G53 — ἁγνός — hagnos — hag-nos’

From the same as G40; properly clean, that is, (figuratively) innocent, modest, perfect: – chaste, clean, pure.

However, it is used in Titus 2 to refer to wives, and it is used in reference to presenting the Church as a bride to Christ. It generally refers to “purity” such that there is no unclean thing within it.

Obviously, this is an indirect reference to the fruits of the Spirit (charity, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, and self control) against which is no law. This is the the Truth in the Spirit, as opposed to the lie and deception of the nature of the flesh.

Part 4 — Phobos and Phobeo (fear/respect)

G5399 — φοβέω — phobeō — fob-eh’-o

From G5401; to frighten, that is, (passively) to be alarmed; by analogy to be in awe of, that is, revere: – be (+ sore) afraid, fear (exceedingly), reverence.

I covered this topic well in Masculinity is the truth Part 2.

2 as they observe your chaste (hagnos) and [a]respectful (phobos) behavior.

The English translation in the NASB is particularly apt. When wives do what is righteous they have respect/reverence towards both God and her husband. However, when wives do what is evil, all she has left is fear both from God and her husband.

Verse 6 illustrates this best:

6 just as Sarah obeyed (hupakouō) Abraham, calling him lord, and you have become her children if you do what is right [or good] (agathopoieō) [b]without being frightened by any fear (phobeō).

If you do what is good (and the only good that can be done is through the Spirit), then there is no reason to be afraid.

Part 5 — Adornment (Kosmos)

This is perhaps the most intriguing part of the passage. I did not expect this word here when I started to look at the Greek.

3 Your adornment (kosmos) must not be merely external—braiding the hair, and wearing gold jewelry, or putting on dresses; 4 but let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the imperishable quality of a gentle (praus) and quiet (hēsuchios) spirit, which is precious in the sight of God.

Kosmos is typically referred to in the Greek in reference to the Creation of God. However, it also refers to an orderly arrangement of God’s creation.

G2889 — κόσμος — kosmos — kos’-mos

Probably from the base of G2865; orderly arrangement, that is, decoration; by implication the world (in a wide or narrow sense, including its inhabitants, literally or figuratively [morally]): – adorning, world.

“Merely” is not actually there in the Greek as pointed out by Anne in the comments.

The Scripture says to think first about the internal which is incorruptable/imperishable — humility and quietness/peaceableness being the desirable qualities.

When cross referenced with 1 Timothy 2, the Scriptures state the same as this passage although with clarification.

1 Timothy 2:9 Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, [g]modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments, 10 but rather by means of good works, as is proper for women making a claim to godliness.

Generally, it was the prostitutes that wore a lot of jewelry, braided the hair, etc. so the emphasis culturally is not to dress immoral but with modesty.

Beauty is one of the ways wives respect their husbands. If they look pretty then they are being respectors of the “one flesh” even as a wife’s body is not hers but also her husbands, and likewise the husband’s body to the wife (1 Cor 7).

Thus, while the internal is the most important factor, I would suggest that wives should not disregard their physical appearance either but dress modestly and take care of their bodies unto the Lord.

Part 6 — Gentle (Praus)

4 but let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the imperishable quality of a gentle (praus) and quiet (hēsuchios) spirit, which is precious in the sight of God.

Praus is one of the fruits of the Spirit. It is Gentleness / Meekness / humility:

G4239 — πραΰ́ς — praus — prah-ooce’

Apparently a primary word; mild, that is, (by implication) humble: – meek. See also G4235.

Humility is one of the core traits of a Christian because we know that that we have been saved by grace, not of ourselves or good works so that no one can boast, but it is a gift from God. Therefore, let none of us be proud, but serve those in Love/Charity because of the Love/Charity that was first granted to us by God. This is obvious and needs bearing no repeating.

However, often times wives believe that by offering an olive branch with words and actions that they should have husbands reciprocate. Yet, they often find that it drives their husband even further away from them.

Why?

The simple fact of the matter is that men who are constantly abused by women or their wives know that her words often have a hidden subtext to them. A woman will say something and mean another and even if she does something she wants something back. Therefore, the best thing to do is ignore and disengage from the conversation or snark back first before he has her lash out at him.

This is why humility is needed in actions, and it goes along with the concept of charity. Wives must act with the expectation of receiving nothing back.

Remember, you CANNOT change your husband. The only person who can change a wife’s husband is God.

But the relationship that you can change is between yourself and God. And if you die to self, then this allows God to work through you.

Part 7 — Quiet (hēsuchios)

4 but let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the imperishable quality of a gentle (praus) and quiet (hēsuchios) spirit, which is precious in the sight of God.

I always wondered why quiet was used here. This is one of two places that hesuchios is used in the Scriptures.

G2272 — ἡσύχιος — hēsuchios — hay-soo’-khee-os

A prolonged form of a compound probably of a derivative of the base of G1476 and perhaps G2192; properly keeping one’s seat (sedentary), that is, (by implication) still (undisturbed, undisturbing): – peaceable, quiet.

The other context in which this word is used is in terms of Christians’ subjection to earthly authories. That we should live a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty (1 Timothy 2:2).

This is a very difficult concept for most women to get. Women want to engage men with words because words are often the preferred communication type for those of feminine persuasion. However, consider the flipside. When a wife tells her husband she has a problem what does a husband typically do? He wants to go and fix the problem.

This is one of the communication difference between the sexes. Women prefer words and understanding, while men prefer action and doing.

The reason why the Scriptures tell women to behave with humility and quiet/silence is because precisely that is how you speak respect to the husband. The only way that you show a husband respect is through your actions. Your words mean nothing to him because he can see your actions and if you are hypocritical or not.

Part 8 — Right / Good (Agathopoieō)

6 just as Sarah obeyed (hupakouō) Abraham, calling him lord, and you have become her children if you do what is right [or good] (agathopoieō) [b]without being frightened by any fear (phobeō).

Agathopoieo is a derivative from Agathos which is another one of the fruits of the Spirit.

G15 — ἀγαθοποιέω — agathopoieō — ag-ath-op-oy-eh’-o

From G17; to be a well-doer (as a favor or a duty): – (when) do good (well).

As I have explained in various posts such as God is good and the good and the good and the bad and the bad, the only way Christians can do good is to walk with the Spirit (Galatians 5). This is what it means to die to self, and to have God work through your actions.

This is also subtle reference back to Cain and Abel where Cain is dissatisfied with his offering to God not being accepted.

Genesis 4:6 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen? 7 If you do well (yâṭab), [e]will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master it.

H3190 — yâṭab — yaw-tab’

A primitive root; to be (causatively) make well, literally (sound, beautiful) or figuratively (happy, successful, right): – be accepted, amend, use aright, benefit, be (make) better, seem best, make cheerful, be comely, + be content, diligent (-ly), dress, earnestly, find favour, give, be glad, do (be, make) good ([-ness]), be (make) merry, please (+ well), shew more [kindness], skilfully, X very small, surely, make sweet, thoroughly, tire, trim, very, be (can, deal, entreat, go, have) well [said, seen ].

The interesting part about the Cain and Abel analogy here is that the same words for “Desire” and “Rule” — “And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door; and its desire is for you, but you must master [rule over] it.” are the same ones in Genesis 3 of the fall where God curses woman and says “Yet your desire will be for your husband, And he will rule over you.

Submission is a RIGHTEOUS action because it you are obeying God first, and your husband second. It’s less about submission to the husband, but submission to God by obeying His law. Remember when David sins by having Uriah murdered after sleeping with Bathsheba in Psalm 51 David cries out to God and says “Against You, You only, I have sinned And done what is evil in Your sight.”

Conclusions

In the end, what we are left with is a set of 8 instructions on how wives are supposed to win their husbands, even those wives who are married to unbelievers.

Take a look at what we have, and think about what they mean:

  1. Without a Word (logos)
  2. Submissive (hupotasso)
  3. Chaste (hagnos)
  4. Fear/reverence (phobos/phobeo)
  5. Adornment (Kosmos)
  6. Gentle (praus)
  7. Quiet (hēsuchios)
  8. Right / Good (Agathopoieō)

If you noticed that they are all actions you would be correct!

Wives will never win their husbands with words. Only through actions can a husband be won. Because actions are speaking the language of men.

In particular, the Scriptures reiterate twice that (1) you should not try to lecture him with the Word or words and to be (7) quiet in and let your behavior speak for you. Any words, positive or negative, will be met with suspicion from a nagged husband. Thus, it is better to say nothing. Let your actions speak for you.

Then there are 5 reinforcing actions upon which your behavior is built. (2) Submit to his headship with (3) pure/chaste behavior, (4) respect, (6) humility, and (8) goodness which can only be done through the Spirit, and also to (5) adorn (orderly arrange) first with humility and quietness then external beauty (both are required!). A woman’s beauty is a physical expression of her respect to her husband.

Words mean essentially nothing to a husband that is brow beaten. Your words go in one ear and out the other because your behavior says everything. Behavior is not just doing things for him.

Non-verbal behavior is often referenced to approximately 85-90% of communication. Any time you eye roll, go off in a huff, have dominant body language such as hands on hips, treat him like he’s a child, etc. then you tell him that you are not submissive, your behavior is impure and rejecting, your behavior is disrespecting, without humility, and without goodness.

This is why counseling never works. Unless it is strictly Scriptural based recommendations where a counselor can walk a couple through a passage such as 1 Peter 3, words and compromises will never mean anything for a husband. Husbands often find out that he goes in willing to work on things, but the behavior of the wife never changes. He knows its fruitless and will withdraw. Counseling in the majority of cases is counterproductive.

Never beg and never plead provides a good mindset and semi-template for which a wife to apologize to her husband:

“I’ve made many mistakes in this marriage and apologize. I understand that I hurt you, and that you may not forgive me. I know there is nothing I can do to make it up. But if you are willing I want to reconcile.

I realize that my words mean nothing to you at this point, and that only thing that matters is that I behavior in a respectful manner to you. I know you’re skeptical, but I want you to call me on it on anything that you perceive as disrespect so I can repent to God and apologize to you.

If I start to blow up at you, remind me of this conversation and tell me to be quiet and I will.”

The last sentence you actually have to follow through on. It is the high horse of pride to think that just because you mean something one way it may not come off the other way to another person. You are not seeking your own approval. You’re seeking pray and do good to those who persecute you. Even if it’s in your own home.

Husbands will inevitably skeptical, especially if he has been brow beatend nagginged for many years if not decades. Wives may have the upwards of years for God to undo all of the damage, so it is a long journey. The road is not always easy, but it when we overcome trials that we grow in our faith. It is when we struggle and overcome that we grow in our relationships with God and with others.

This is why charity is so important. No one can have charity except through God moving His transforming power in our lives through the Holy Spirit. Thus, a wife must die to herself and allow God to move through her.

A wife cannot change her husband. Ever. Only God can do that. It’s fruitless to attempt to do this.

A wife must cry out to God as her ezer, to help her be an ezer to her husband.

The Scriptures really have all of the answers to marriage. But 99.99%  of the time Christian wives choose not to listen to God’s Word and wonder why they are unhappy.

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39 Responses to Wives will never win their husbands with words

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  2. Wow, this was a really insightful post! I didn’t even recognize that at first!

  3. @ LLB7

    I didn’t really think about it either until I looked into the passage deeper.

    Though the concepts are clear in Christianity. It’s never been about what you say, it’s always been about what you do.

    Especially to men who consider action their gold standard.

  4. This probably explains why men talk way less than women. My dad has always been extremely quiet while my mom talkative.

    I agree, Christianity as a whole follows the same concept. As Christians we submit to God through actions. This is why Jesus said “If you love me, you’ll follow my commandments.”

  5. @ LLB7

    That seems to be the norm in today’s society at least.

    It’s not wrong to be extremely verbally expressive, but in the end faith and love are all about action.

  6. donalgraeme says:

    Superb post mate. Perfectly tied together and everything. I would post a link over at the Peaceful Wife’s site, she would not doubt appreciate it.

  7. deti says:

    “Women prefer words and understanding, while men prefer action and doing.”

    Yes. This is why men do things like work to earn money to support their families, buy gifts, get flowers, etc. These are actions that show love. Men will say “I love you” but don’t do it often, because they just don’t work that way. They’re not as good as women at doing things like sitting around endlessly talking about how they feel.

    Men respond to respect. She does what he asks her to do. She doesn’t question him or run him down in front of other people. She is discreet. IF there’s a problem it’s handled behind closed doors and is not discussed with people who don’t need to know about it. She understands that she’s never going to get him to do things with endless talking, pleading, cajoling and complaining. Even if it’s legitimate and even if she’s right, she will come across TO HIM as disrespectful even if she takes pains not to come off that way.

  8. Wonderful job DS.

    I’m reminded of a few months back and a running set of discussions (I think at Dalrock’s), and I kept pounding a point that the problem Christian Wives run into is always a Faith issue. Which is what it always boils down to.

    It’s amazing how we convince ourselves, in mass as Christians, that the Bible doesn’t mean what it says, especially when Paul is talking in generalities for Christian practice. You’ve done a wonderful service here, DS.

  9. Anne says:

    I really like this post and agree with the entire message, except that there is one point you made which does not seem to me to be reflected in the text. In verse 3 the word “merely” is a word added by the translators (so is “fine”, though your point doesn’t rest on that word, and my objection is weakened by its absence). If you read the verse without that word, it doesn’t say what you are emphasizing. In fact, this verse made me uncomfortable with braiding my hair, though I do still wear apparel.

  10. @ Anne

    I just checked again. You are correct there is no merely in the verse.

    Though, when cross referenced with 1 Timothy 2 it says to aim for modesty (as opposed to external adornment). I would still assert that overall appearance is still important just in modesty.

    Generally, it was the prostitutes that wore a lot of jewelry, braided the hair, etc. so the emphasis culturally is not to dress immoral.

    Edited the passage to include this and make it factually correct.

  11. Some study has also pointed out that married Women of the upper society (which pretty much were all running around screwing whatever guys they could) had short hair, which is part of the reason Paul calls that out.

    Also, I believe the “merely” and “let it be” (verse 4) can be properly read from the comparative contrast between Inner & Outer adornment. Peter (in 1 Peter and 2 Peter) uses a few priority list, much in the way Paul does.

    We can call it in the Inverse Slut Principle: the “outside” can look good, but the inside is rotten. As Christians, it’s God first, so all adornment first comes upon the Soul, then everything proceeds out from there. Which is simply another reiteration, with specific context, of the constantly repeated concept from Genesis to Revelation: the First Commandment.

  12. Chad says:

    I would say that the adornment comes down to one basic rule:

    Men appreciate anything which has an appearance that matches it’s true nature. This is exponentially more true of people than of passive objects. Thus a woman who’s outer adornment matches her inner one is of great value when her inner adornment is devoted to God.

    Ignoring this instruction also ignores the fact that we, as fallen humans, often will mold ourselves to match our appearances over time. Sometimes even instantly. Many a man will tell you how new shoes, a new suit, or any other clothing item will put a spring in his step. How much more so this must be true for women whom have a tendency to place such greater value on their appearance! Thus a woman must be very careful of what her appearance leads her behavior and thoughts towards, as well as being charitable by considering how those around her will react.

  13. @ Chad,

    Good thing to note there.

    Just as women like congruency in men, men like congruency in women.The outside should be a reflection the inside.

    Christian nice guys insides reflect amorphous personalities and many times slovenly appearances which is specifically condemned in the Scriptures (lukewarm).

    Likewise, a woman’s inside should be reflected in his personality and her physical appearance.

  14. Chad says:

    “Christian nice guys insides reflect amorphous personalities and many times slovenly appearances which is specifically condemned in the Scriptures (lukewarm).”

    Yes.

    I would say that, from what I’ve seen, the main appeal of Christian Chumps is an appeal to women’s pride in very… interesting ways. Basically, it appeals to women’s pride that they can change him through being a mother figure or it appeals because they can run roughshod over him and be rebellious and sassy all the time.

    On the flip side, men are attracted to women without any inner adornment (but with outer adornment) because we like projects. A human project, just like with women, appeals to men’s pride. We think we can fix them.

    In all the above cases, people are blinded to the fact that God is what is needed to change people for the better, not other fallen humans. Usually we work to our own detriment, leading everyone involved (even family or friends) to sin as we drag down those in the relationship and those around it.

    The whole thing is a toxic mess of narcissism and co-dependency leading to a plague of sins that infect any they touch.

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  17. smilinghope says:

    This is awesome!!! Ah! 😀 It gave a whole new perspective on that verse! Thank you for this!
    Actions over words! Got it!

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  22. Agapoula says:

    Thank you for one of the most edifying and helpful posts I have read.

  23. Agapoula says:

    I want to admit, it is something I have already struggled with, with my fiance. Many times I talk too much to try to make my point, even when I can sense he wants me to be quiet.
    I continue talking because I think that somehow, with my words I will make things better and get my point across.
    Even if he tells me to be quiet, I have used words to apologize profusely for talking so much. So silly of me, and also just not respectful of his needs.
    I have realized that it does not even matter if I am gentle and soft with my words, if he needs quiet, I need to be quiet. I have been thinking about that a lot lately, and this post just made it more clear for me. Thank you.

  24. @ Agapoula

    Glad I could help.

    It’s a hard thing for wives to learn that talking a lot often doesn’t help but can make the problem worse too.

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  33. Ame says:

    excellent. so packed and powerful.

    this stood out to me right off the top:

    “Husbands are called to headship and the wives are called to submission in the Scriptures. Just as there is a hierarchical structure in God’s nature (Father > Jesus > Holy Spirit) as well as between Christ > Church, so too God has laid down a hierarchical structure here on earth between the sexes.

    When the wife is making the decisions and having her husband qualify to her whims she is going to be leading the relationship. Because she feels like she is leading the relationship, she is going to be stressed because the responsibilities of the marriage will fall directly onto her instead of her husband. This one of the reasons why wives will become unhappy, even though they desire power in the relationship.”

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  35. Miss Lou says:

    Thank you, I agree. Reading and listening to God’s word is vital in a marriage

  36. aprilsilverwolf says:

    I don’t feel as if these men/women stereotypes are true in my life. I’m the one who values action and my husband is the one who gets upset when I don’t ask enough questions about his life. Also how is your quiet submissiveness supposed to catch the attention of a husband who only ever looks at the computer and doesn’t even notice what’s going on around him? My husband is a programmer addict and the more silent I am, the more he doesn’t even notice that weeks have gone by and he hasn’t even acknowledges my existence. You want me to continue in this agonizing neglect? I’m about ready to run away from home because I don’t think he would ever notice.

  37. @ aprilsilverwolf

    If your husband wants you to do something else then do what he says. That’s submission.

    Also, check out:

    https://peacefulwife.com/

  38. Shannon says:

    While there is wisdom in this verse, feminism has nothing to do with it. In fact, feminism is what would cause a wife to realize that she is worthy of respect and equal treatment. Jesus was a feminist.

  39. @ Shannon

    Unfortunately, your view of feminism is off.

    https://deepstrength.wordpress.com/2016/02/18/feminism-is-the-promotion-and-glorification-of-rebellion/

    https://deepstrength.wordpress.com/2016/08/11/feminism-is-an-inferiority-complex-and-white-knights-are-enablers/

    Feminism co-opts the message of Jesus and the Scriptures that women are worthy of honor and co-heirs in salvation which is correct. This deceives Christians into believing that feminism is true, when the opposite is true.

    The fruit of feminism is only rotten: abortion, women getting wrapped up in careerism, free love and the sexual revolution, no fault divorce, single motherhood is praised, usurping leadership in the family and Churches, and so on.

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